formariz 11,987 #1 Posted May 17 So I been noticing this year that my problem with damage from chipmunks , rabbits and groundhogs seems to be nonexistent. I discovered why. I have as new residents two families of foxes. There are a total of 10. One has two bigger pups and the other one four little ones. They seem to all get along and their dens are next to each other. It’s been great watching them all play around the lawn on the back of property and nursing the little ones on the lawn. I was worried about a fawn that was born a few days ago but they hangout close with no issues so far. I wonder if our pleasure in watching them is not going to turn into a nightmare of some kind. They see us and don’t seem to bothered. As a matter of fact while I mow the lawn the pups just sit there and watch me. 12 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,829 #2 Posted May 17 So great to hear from you Cas! 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,390 #3 Posted May 17 Disclaimer.... I am not by a long shot of wildlife expert but we live in the country and deal with animals on a daily basis. IMHO: If it was me I would go about my business and not worry about it at all. Just keep your distance and they probably will too. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #4 Posted May 17 1 hour ago, Pullstart said: So great to hear from you Cas! Thank you so much. It’s always great to be here where one is welcome and understood. Life is getting a little easier now that I am getting used to the new realities so I’ll be back a lot more often. 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #5 Posted May 17 1 hour ago, ebinmaine said: IMHO: If it was me I would go about my business and not worry about it at all. Just keep your distance and they probably will too That is also what I am thinking. Grown particularly fond of them specially when everyone that comes over always compliments the place that it looks like a well kept park. They certainly fit right in and we just love to sit outside and watch them nursing and playing right in the middle of the place. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,050 #6 Posted May 17 As long as you don't have any pets that go outside and keep the grandkids away from them you should be fine. Keep an eye out for any unusual activity by them as it could be a sign of rabies. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #7 Posted May 17 27 minutes ago, squonk said: As long as you don't have any pets that go outside and keep the grandkids away from them you should be fine. Keep an eye out for any unusual activity by them as it could be a sign of rabies. Good points. No pets outside. Although they don’t seem too fearful of us they keep their distance and so do we. I seen some really bad looking ones years back in this area with hairless tails not looking very healthy but these are absolutely healthy looking and acting. Came across a few minutes ago with a result of their presence. A baby possum with the throat slit by a bite! No wonder the chipmunks rabbits and groundhogs are gone. Particularly happy about the groundhogs since they are so destructive. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,524 #8 Posted May 17 I would welcome a fox or two... the chip, groundhog and squirrel population is going crazy... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,112 #9 Posted May 17 43 minutes ago, squonk said: As long as you don't have any pets that go outside and keep the grandkids away from them you should be fine. Keep an eye out for any unusual activity by them as it could be a sign of rabies. Mike is spot on. Enjoy them, but at a distance. They are meat eating predators that will soon need to expand their range to find enough food (any chicken coops nearby) and it is likely they will eventually consume an animal that is infected with rabies. Do not feed or make physical contact with them. You know the drill Cas... 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,713 #10 Posted May 17 Enjoy Mother Nature Mate...you have a unique view! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #11 Posted May 18 So far the downside it’s the dead animals I am finding. Today while mowing lawn found a second possum half eaten, a mangled frog and lots of feathers around. That is not going to be a good thing . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,155 #12 Posted May 18 17 hours ago, formariz said: no issues so far. I wonder if our pleasure in watching them is not going to turn into a nightmare of some kind. Wild life belong in the wild, not in a residential setting. Have you called the Fish and Wildlife folks to see if they will relocate your new new neighbors? https://dep.nj.gov/njfw/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,524 #13 Posted May 18 I have a coyote that frequents our neighborhood... 3:00 am - 5:00 am routine... I'm glad - he/she will keep the varmint population down... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,390 #14 Posted May 18 31 minutes ago, 953 nut said: Wild life belong in the wild, not in a residential setting In principle I agree... But the reality is that as human animals we're rapidly encroaching and completely taking over all available environment from the rest of the flora and fauna. We need to learn to adapt just as they do or all lifeforms will continue to lose the race. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCW 1,292 #15 Posted May 18 My niece as a youngster experienced a fox needing to find more food. She was walking a young pup on a leash along the sidewalk and a fox came out and attacked the dog. She picked the dog up and the fox then jump up on her after the dog. She was scratched and then treated for rabies as a precaution. BTW the dog lived a long and happy life. So some caution is warranted. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,390 #16 Posted May 18 28 minutes ago, CCW said: So some caution is warranted I would elaborate on that to the point that: NO WILD ANIMAL SHOULD BE INTERACTED WITH EXCEPT BY TRAINED OFFICIALS 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCW 1,292 #17 Posted May 18 1 hour ago, ebinmaine said: NO WILD ANIMAL SHOULD BE INTERACTED WITH EXCEPT BY TRAINED OFFICIALS The only interaction we have is going in the house as the black bear walk through our back yard. Other than the birdbath. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,524 #18 Posted May 18 2 hours ago, ebinmaine said: I would elaborate on that to the point that: NO WILD ANIMAL SHOULD BE INTERACTED WITH EXCEPT BY TRAINED OFFICIALS Well... I wouldn't say i'm a trained official, but I interact with deer every fall from 100 yds out or so... Reach right out and touch them... so to speak... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,434 #19 Posted May 18 We have had foxes that roamed our area. We also used to have cats that we would see on the wildlife cam. Another neighbor got a rooster. He lasted for about a month. The cat no longer showed up on the wildlife cam and soon after, posters were on the utility poles for a lost cat. The fox still appears at night, but the rooster is silent and the cat is gone. One can only surmise that the fox is not hungry any longer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #20 Posted May 18 I am wondering what kind of havoc 10 of them will create. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #21 Posted May 18 Here is a cool video of them specially towards the end with most of them running around. Wife took video so excuse the shaking and her choice words about her condition. IMG_1410.mov 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,112 #22 Posted May 18 42 minutes ago, formariz said: excuse the shaking Thanks Mrs. F, It looked steady here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #23 Posted May 21 It’s getting a little gruesome every day now. I think I may have to evict them. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,112 #24 Posted May 21 Yeah, they need to eat. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,155 #25 Posted May 21 (edited) On 5/18/2024 at 8:17 AM, ebinmaine said: the reality is that as human animals we're rapidly encroaching and completely taking over all available environment from the rest of the flora and fauna. There is little doubt that the fox's former home was disturbed by some sort of human action but that doesn't make it safe for them to be in a residential area. Our back property line is the US Forest service and we do see the occasional fox, bear, coyote, and lots of deer wandering by. The average home density where we live is one house per ten acres so there is plenty of room for nature and people to coexist.We love watching the wildlife when they happen to come by, but they are not taking up residence in out backyard. We do have a resident skunk and I am fine with that because racoons are afraid of skunks so we don't have any. Edited May 21 by 953 nut fat finger 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites