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Looking at one but according to the owner it won't move. Not sure if he even tried the release valve or if it is stuck. Been setting for a couple years. Manual lift not hydro. Thoughts on what I should look for if I go see it. Also where is the release valve on this model?

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Ed Kennell
9 minutes ago, D_Mac said:

Looking at one but according to the owner it won't move. Not sure if he even tried the release valve or if it is stuck. Been setting for a couple years. Manual lift not hydro. Thoughts on what I should look for if I go see it. Also where is the release valve on this model?

The 312A  with manual lift has the Eaton 700 hydro.  There is no tow release valve on the Eatons and the 700 is nearly impossible to move. Best to put it on a dolly till you can get the engine running.       You may be able to hand push it by jiggling the motion control lever around the nuetral  position.  Do not tow or push with power.

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Pullstart

If the tires are up, I like to take advantage of an open differential.  Give the tractor some left to right pressure and spin one rear wheel backwards while pushing it forward.  The spider gears will allow it to propel the chosen direction with no transmission movement.,,

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953 nut

If you have a two wheel hand truck you can put it under the rear end and pick up the transaxle then hold it down while someone pushes it backward. Had to do this with one that was locked up because of a broken differential bolt.

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D_Mac

So it's my understanding that you can't push it around without engine running? There is no dump valve like on my 1075 and 875 ?

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gwest_ca

Pushing instructions are on page 7 of the operator manual.

Tried to copy and paste but can't make it work.

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953 nut
9 hours ago, gwest_ca said:

Pushing instructions are on page 7 of the operator manual.

Tried to copy and paste but can't make it work.

Are you sure this is for the Eaton 700 transaxle?

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Ed Kennell
12 hours ago, D_Mac said:

There is no dump valve like on my 1075 and 875 ?

Correct, the Sundstrands have a "dump" valve and the Eatons do not.

With the dump valve open, the Sundstrands can be safely towed.       The Eatons can not be safely towed.   The Eaton 1100 can be pushed by hand.    Some of the Eaton 700s may be slowly pushed by hand by jiggling the motion control lever.  Some Eaton 700s will not move at all.

You have an Eaton 700.  Best to pick it up to move it.

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Handy Don
11 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

You have an Eaton 700.  Best to pick it up to move it.

Looked at another way, if you can easily hand push a 700, it is probably broken.

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D_Mac

Talked to the owner of it again today. He told me that it stopped moving when the engine was running. That pretty much made me loose interest in it.

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953 nut
11 hours ago, D_Mac said:

it stopped moving when the engine was running.

Could be the belt broke.            :confusion-confused:

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Handy Don
12 hours ago, D_Mac said:

Talked to the owner of it again today. He told me that it stopped moving when the engine was running. That pretty much made me loose interest in it.

Changes the menu for sure, and one has to gauge one’s appetite!

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D_Mac

Not sure what it can be. Plus I'm no mechanic.

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Ed Kennell
2 hours ago, D_Mac said:

Not sure what it can be. Plus I'm no mechanic.

Broken spring on drive belt tensioner.

Broken belt.

Loose pulley on tranny input shaft.

Low oil .

 

 

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Ed Kennell

Oh, one more a  loose axle spinning in a hub.

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Tuneup

'Doesn't move anymore with engine running'. Sounds like it would be a screaming deal and an easy fix. Unusual to find these burned up but expected that they'd all be worn. 15W-50 fixed mine up nicely and is the recommended lubricant by a builder or two (yeah, internet but worked well here). I'm glad I'm not in the northeast where these things are more common. My shed would have to start having levels of storage. 4 is enough (for now) and the 516H just goes and goes.

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Easton Rich

Get it, as some of these guys know I’ve looked at sooooooo many good deals and let them go because of little things :handgestures-thumbupright:

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squonk

Eaton 700's are a weak hydro. It's a crap shoot finding a good used one.

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