ebinmaine 67,506 #1 Posted April 9 https://www.curbsideclassic.com/design-3/pony-wagons/#more-510143 Did we miss out? Should they have been done? Are you glad they were NOT? 2 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treepep 564 #2 Posted April 9 Well, every automaker produces a version of that car now. Unfortunately they are all four doors. They are overpowered for the happy housewives that drive em. Now a 2 door mustang wagon... Heck yeah! Im all day 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,000 #3 Posted April 9 (edited) Looks like AMC did produce something along those lines with the Gremlin. Edited April 9 by wallfish 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
87 416-8 horse 420 #4 Posted April 9 (edited) Those are sweet looking cars!! I especially like the 65 mustang with the top and the 71 Camaro. I wish auto makers would bring back the old body styles. Personally I think the older vehicles are way better looking than new cars and trucks. Edited April 9 by 87 416-8 horse 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,362 #5 Posted April 9 (edited) I loved my 74 Chevy Vega wagon. The problem with the new stuff is it pretty much all basically looks the same. Edited April 9 by rjg854 Add 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 7,004 #6 Posted April 9 One word - aerodynamics. Pretty much everybody's wind tunnel converges on very similar solutions. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,000 #7 Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, rjg854 said: The problem with the new stuff is it pretty much all basically looks the same. Remember when you could easily tell the difference? Even cars from the same manufacturer. Most could instantly tell the difference between a Camaro and a Chevelle or a Mustang and a Fairlane, etc etc etc. Now you can't tell the difference, no matter what it is. Import or homegrown. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,000 #8 Posted April 9 1 minute ago, 8ntruck said: One word - aerodynamics. Pretty much everybody's wind tunnel converges on very similar solutions. How about those old flat front trucks? That was like pushing 2 sheets of plywood down the road 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,232 #9 Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, 8ntruck said: One word - aerodynamics. Pretty much everybody's wind tunnel converges on very similar solutions. The biggest wind tunnel-driven change is the sloping rears that you see on hatchbacks, small SUVs, and the few remaining wagons. It isn’t the pointy front that really lowers the drag coefficient, it's the pointy rear end! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 7,004 #10 Posted April 9 Are you quoting Dr. Kamm? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,232 #11 Posted April 9 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 8ntruck said: Are you quoting Dr. Kamm? I'm not familiar with this person. I should mention another often overlooked aerodynamic tweak--the air dam under the nose. With smaller front ends, the grills and radiators have had to shrink. But t’s still critical to get enough airflow for cooling. the air dam forces some air that would go under the car to go up through the radiator and that changed flow causes a low pressure area behind and below the radiator which further helps cooling airflow. At highway speeds, depending on the vehicle, the low pressure area can also add downforce to improve handling. Edited April 9 by Handy Don 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,577 #12 Posted April 9 39 minutes ago, rjg854 said: The problem with the new stuff is it pretty much all basically looks the same. 30 minutes ago, wallfish said: Remember when you could easily tell the difference? Even cars from the same manufacturer. It also doesn't help that most of the new cars & trucks are all painted white, black, or some shade of gray. Have we become so boring that we're afraid of stand out colors??? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,577 #13 Posted April 9 31 minutes ago, wallfish said: How about those old flat front trucks? That was like pushing 2 sheets of plywood down the road In the opinion of a motorcycle rider, I would rather meet a cab over on the road than a conventional cab. Wind from the cab over mainly pushes over the top of the truck and does not effect a rider on the other side of the road. Wind from a conventional cab pushes to the sides and gives a rider a strong blast of air as they meet. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,232 #14 Posted April 9 1 minute ago, Achto said: Have we become so boring that we're afraid of stand out colors??? A great thought! For me, it was the grey plastic cladding on the wheel wells and rocker panels. I really dislike the contrast with most of the body colors that were available. Hence our newest car is an Onyx black wagon (with tinted windows, no less). My son kids me that it’s the car Darth Vader drives to pick up his kids after soccer practice. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 7,004 #15 Posted April 9 Dr. Kamm was active in automotive aerodynamics back in the dark ages - the late 60's and early 70's. The little spoiler kick on the end of the Vega station wagon was credited to him. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,885 #16 Posted April 10 13 hours ago, wallfish said: How about those old flat front trucks? That was like pushing 2 sheets of plywood down the road That’s some heavy plywood! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,118 #17 Posted April 10 23 hours ago, wallfish said: How about those old flat front trucks? That was like pushing 2 sheets of plywood down the road GMC Cracker Box with a screamin Detroit were a wild ride. Grandparents neighbor's had one 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EB-80/8inPA 1,641 #18 Posted April 11 Anybody remember this? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 8,707 #19 Posted April 11 And what about this cabover? I swear if I I ever hit one of those big lottery jackpots I’m going to get a cabover (maybe not a GMC?) and have it painted this color scheme so I can haul my horses to the Big Show!! 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
87 416-8 horse 420 #20 Posted April 11 My brother dug up a toy truck just like that. I cleaned it up restored it. It’s the exact same! 1 hour ago, c-series don said: And what about this cabover? I swear if I I ever hit one of those big lottery jackpots I’m going to get a cabover (maybe not a GMC?) and have it painted this color scheme so I can haul my horses to the Big Show!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,506 #21 Posted April 11 5 hours ago, 87 416-8 horse said: . I cleaned it up restored it. Excellent! 6 hours ago, c-series don said: And what about this cabover? I swear if I I ever hit one of those big lottery jackpots I’m going to get a cabover (maybe not a GMC?) and have it painted this color scheme so I can haul my horses to the Big Show!! That would be way past cool ! You'd do just fine with that vintage GMC. 😉 7 hours ago, EB-80/8inPA said: Anybody remember this? Can't say it looks familiar. What's this from? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EB-80/8inPA 1,641 #22 Posted April 11 3 hours ago, ebinmaine said: What's this from? A rather weird 1971 film Harold and Maude. More here: https://blog.consumerguide.com/harold-maude-car/?amp=1 The original was destroyed in the filming, but was eventually replicated: https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/entertainment/a13126985/meet-the-man-who-built-the-jaguar-e-type-hearse/ I thought it was pretty cool. The flick not so much. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,118 #23 Posted April 11 12 hours ago, c-series don said: And what about this cabover? I swear if I I ever hit one of those big lottery jackpots I’m going to get a cabover (maybe not a GMC?) and have it painted this color scheme so I can haul my horses to the Big Show!! Still got mine in the box! How bout a Toro pickup? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-85 681 #24 Posted April 12 I miss 2 or 3 tone paint schemes on vehicles, most vehicles today are all one color, which I think is boring! Having more than one color breaks up the vehicle and if you get a dent, you only have to repair that area instead of the whole panel. C-85 This was my '88 Chevy K1500 that I had for 30 years! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,506 #25 Posted April 12 6 minutes ago, C-85 said: 2 or 3 tone paint schemes Agreed. I believe my truck will have an off white roof at minimum. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites