Any of you have STACKABLE refuse containers around??

[ebinmaine 67,508]

 

Such a simple concept.  

We have none around here I've ever seen. 

Imagine the space savings if we didn't have untold acres of empty dumpsters to store...

 

 

 

 

 

 

🤯

[Pullstart 62,887]

Maw, that would make too much sense for Americans to have!  

[ri702bill 8,323]

Most small 5 yard dumpsters on this side of the pond do look like they could be stacked - but how do you unstack them????

[wh500special 2,184]

Our scrap metal hauler for

work uses those stackable skips for our three metal waste streams.  They sometimes drop off two of them stacked in the parking lot so they can swap them around more conveniently when they are picking the full ones up for a scrap run. 
 

I’ve never seen them used for garbage collection though.  They probably need lids to help discourage critter entry and too much rainwater running through them and into the ground. 
 

Steve

[SylvanLakeWH 25,561]

Trailer height max is also an issue...

 

[ebinmaine 67,508]

3 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

Trailer height max is also an issue...

 

Yes. 

The videos I saw it looked like empties can be hauled 3 high IF on the right trailer.  

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

Good old Dutch technology right there. Most of the time these containers are used for when you're renovating your home or garden. So to discard old furniture, bricks (rubble) and landscaping leftovers.. 

The trucks park a long(er) trailer somewhere where it's a bit more spacious with a 'stockpile' of these containers. The trucks are compact and can get into toight spaces more easily.

Also notice the eye at the bottom front of the container and the chain in the middle of the truck? That's used to tip the containers once their full. Pretty neat system. 

[Tractorhead 9,064]

7 hours ago, ri702bill said:

Most small 5 yard dumpsters on this side of the pond do look like they could be stacked - but how do you unstack them????

 

I drove such a dump Truck several years ago for a while, because it seems to be a funny Job.

On all Truck ridings i ever did, definitely it‘s the funniest because of it’s maneuverability.

Not much stress, just do your thing but the roadtraffic is your hardest enemy.

 

Deliver is simple get a Container put one into another stacked (max. 3into ) put it together on the Trailer plus 3 more on the flip side of the Trailer - again 3 on the Truck and you can deliver 9 containers Quick on bigger Construction sites.

easy going.

 

Unstack is also that simple, first place the both or three containers from the truck, change the chains to the next inserted one,

lift it up, drive as close aside the first container and you can set it closely to the first you delivered and so on.

Stacking and unstacking is just a thing of the Hydraulics speed.

With a well dimensioned hydraulics you can stack them in less than 30 sec.

just a few onsite tries and you see how easy that is.

just change the chains to the Buck you like to move.

 

Dump you can with a Truck max. 1 Container, with a tandem axle trailer 2 and with a trailer for adults maximum 3 Containers in one ride.

Exception was a 4 row containertrailer as a sideloader, but they be here to wide for road leaglity and just used on big Construction sites.

 

Dumping itself is also dang easy, just flip the switch for the hook and swing it out to rear - and pray before you do that, not any idiot drains it‘s concrete rests into it on the floor and hide it with some light trash above.

 

Never forget the safety feets on the rear before lift a heavy container, otherwise you can test, 

if the Frame on the Truck is fine and the whole construction site know it 😂

 

 

see a lot‘s of rookies on the dump without the safety feets out and with lifted Frontaxle.

rookies been forbidden to drive onto the dump too close, several forgot the feets an learn it the hard way , 

that mistake will result in a backflip.

- if you see such an rookie, give him a secret on the Way - greasing of the frontaxle couldn‘t be made easier...😂

upright standing.. that safes backpain..😎

 

If a rookie does that, you can hear the Container definitely „smack on the ground“...

 

here we where allway‘s amused when a rookie do it and honor it with Applause...😇😎🤪

[Mickwhitt 4,625]

We just call them skip wagons over in Blighty, there are thousands of them on the roads. Anything from mini skips of just a few cubic yards to monster ones which are pulled on and off the truck with a single hook arm. Those ones we use in the military to drop a container full of equipment off.

The skip can be dropped on your drive till its full then collected, if you want it on the road outside it has to have permission from the local council and costs more. BEWARE... not only will some nefarious thieves Nick stuff out of your skip,  others will happily pop along and fill it overnight. You can't win. 

Some firms over here now supply a huge nylon bag, the size of a decent skip. You fill it up just like you would a skip and they collect it when full. 

 

[ebinmaine 67,508]

21 hours ago, Mickwhitt said:

Some firms over here now supply a huge nylon bag, the size of a decent skip. You fill it up just like you would a skip and they collect it when full. 

 

 

I've seen these quite a few times over here. 

I figured they would become more popular at some point.  Still rare by comparison of the steel ones.  

 

The folks that fill these  soft sided bags are apparently not given proper (or any?) instruction on pickup location.  

I've seen several setting under the utility wires waiting to be taken.

Crane + wires = illegal and flat dangerous. 

 

[Horse Newbie 7,069]

We use these…

holds about a weeks worth of gahbadge…

 

A green one holds about two weeks worth of 

weecyclabulls…

[Handy Don 12,232]

On 3/17/2024 at 8:08 PM, Mickwhitt said:

others will happily pop along and fill it overnight.

Technically illegal here (misdemeanor) as a “theft of services” though only enforceable against someone clueless enough to leave clues to their identity!

[Mickwhitt 4,625]

9 hours ago, Horse Newbie said:

We use these…

holds about a weeks worth of gahbadge…

 

A green one holds about two weeks worth of 

weecyclabulls…

We were forced into having wheeled bins probably around 40 years ago. Prior to that we had a metal round dustbin which was collected once a week. Our "bin men" or refuse collection operatives would take every bin from where the household kept it and empty it into a dust cart, before putting it back. This obviously took more men and time.

So the "Wheelie bin" came along. Emptied only ever two weeks fir general waste and every four weeks for garden waste and six weeks for recycling.

Now the householder has to put each bin out before 6am on collection day, so they all go out the night before. This blocks pavements, which is in itself an offence. Invariably the bins are full to bursting and if its windy the contents end up blowing out because the lids are so light. Oh, there's another offence racked up by our council of littering. 

The bins are loaded by very expensive automatic bin trucks that are way more complex than the old style trucks.

So to save on wages and employing people our councils have created more problems than they fixed. No one wanted wheelie bins. No one likes wheelie bins. Not many people have room outside for the  FOUR much larger bins we have to have. And if they get damaged or stolen you have to buy your own  replacement. Yes they do get stolen, either to replace a bin at some nefarious persons home or to use by nefarious persons for transporting stolen property in at night, yes the council provides wheeled transport for burglars. 

And finally a popular passtime for our Yoof cultcha is setting fire to the bins left out overnight as they burn beautifully, leaving the result welded to the pavement outside your home.

Progress is not always All it is cracked up to be, especially if the council using public money are treated to perks and trips abroad by the wheelie bin manufacturers. 

Now, help me down from this damn soap box and give me a hand to carry it to the kerb  edge. 

[wh500special 2,184]

I used to work at a place that made the lower front handle for those big rolling bins.  Ours were solid pultruded fiberglass rods, but you also often see galvanized steel tubing there too.  The truck grabs that handle to heft the bin and its contents - whether they are lightweight packing material or a big block V8 car engine or a load of gravel  - and dump it into the truck.   They’re incredibly strong. 
 

Amazingly, we made 6000 of those handles.  Per day.   
 

Let that sink in.  That’s over 1 million per year. 
 

The company we supplied them to was only one of several manufacturers of those bins in the US.  And, again, they also used steel handles on other models so our 6000 per day was a drop in the garbage bin so to speak. 
 

I was talking to one of their engineers about why they needed to be so strong.  He related the car engine and gravel stories I mentioned above.  
 

After being responsible for making so many of these containers’ handles and knowing that real engineering went into them I decided I liked these big cans.  👍🏻
 

My neighbors fought to get those bins used by our trash collectors for years. Prior to this we were on our own and could put either a trash can or loose bags out for weekly collection.  
 

Apparently the trash service finally got new trucks so offered the option to the HOA.  They eagerly bit on it as a convenience and they made arrangements on everyone’s behalf to all pay a flat rate for weekly trash collection

and biweekly recycling.   So, one day two of those 96 gallon bins showed up in my driveway.  One for trash, the other for recycling.  I wasn’t thrilled, but it really isn’t a big deal.  
 

This did, though, present a few annoyances for our household…
 

First, our neighborhood covenants don’t allow anybody to leave their trash cans outside overnight.   So they have to stay in the garage.  And 96 gallon cans are huge.  And there were TWO of them.  
 

So, a little garage reshuffling and a much needed cleanup of things I guess I didn’t need to own anymore resulted.  Work I didn’t relish, but no big deal.  The cans were nicely nestled in the front of the garage where the workbench used to be.

 

After a few weeks the neighbors started to complain about the cans and their size on the neighborhood’s Facebook page.  Many appealed to the HOA board to let us keep them outside.  Those efforts failed.  So the cans so many had clamored for became an albatross for some.  Whodathunk?

 

My wife saw that the trash collection service offered smaller cans instead if anybody wanted to swap them out.  That suited us well so we exchanged our twin 96 gallon behemoths for a pair of 50-ish gallon cans (smallest size they offer).  These are MUCH better but are still pretty darn big.  But better.  👍🏻

 

Part of the same announcement was that if anyone had found that a single 96 gallon  trash can or recycle bin wasn’t large enough for their family that they could have a second.  Or third.  Or as many as they wanted for no additional cost.  My wife and i both expressed the same amazement to each other that one gigantic trash can might not be enough, but at least it was a good effort to please customers. 
 

Second, part of the deal between the trash collection service and the neighborhood HOA was supposed to save everyone money on their compulsory trash collection bill.  Now we all pay the same flat fee for our trash collection.  That’s kind of nice I suppose for budgeting and whatnot. 
 

How’s that a problem?

 

Before the flat-rate, Noah’s ark-sized bins showed up we used to all pay a small fee to the trash service and then pay $4.75 per bag or trashcanful that we threw away.  This was executed by buying stickers to put on your trash.  No sticker, and they’d pass over your junk.  Sort of a reverse lamb’s blood/passover thing.  (Wow, two bible references in the same paragraph!)

 

I loved the sticker system.  I’d stick one on our trash can and they’d pick up the trash.  Some weeks we didn’t have enough trash to bother so I’d save it for the next week.  And they had a nice chart made that showed how many stickers you needed to dispose of a big item like a washing machine, patio set, or a mattress.  
 

It was brilliant.   But apparently costly for some who had a lot of trash every week. 
 

Third, I had bought a ton of stickers preemptively when the price was still $3.5 (or whatever it was) apiece before the last price increase.  I still had a stack of them left over when that process was usurped by the Goliaths (number 3!) now lurking in my garage.  My mistake for planning ahead. 
 

Anyway, I am less of a fan of the giant bins than I used to be. 👎

 

One side effect i think i am observing is that I think we are generating more trash in our neighborhood now.  Before, when there was a direct cost associated with not managing a waste stream, I think we were a little more conservative with what went in the trash.  With these big containers it’s like a bottomless pit to throw trash into. 
 

At least my stack of unused stickers fit easily in the bin. 
 

Steve
 

 

Edited March 21 by wh500special