Fishroe 261 #1 Posted February 11 Been a few years I think since I posted on here still visit from time to time bought these two implements yesterday I have been wanting a plow, but haven’t found one until now I have a 314 Hydro with a sleeve hitch I was going to pull it with. Have a 414 eight also, but wouldn’t it be easier with the 314? Guy was selling a 520 H also but I just didn’t really need it I think I could’ve gotten it for 200 or 250. Wasn’t in great shape but not bad guy said it started this morning but he couldn’t get it started when I got there. Said the hour meter was broke. I don’t know how many hours were on it. He said he used to cut a 10 acre field with it. I don’t think it had run in a few years. Just didn’t want to take a chance on an Onan with a lot of hours. Needless to say it was sold about five hours after I left. Somebody on here may have bought it. Is a 314 Hydro just as capable as a 520 H. The pic of the other implement I guess that’s a cultivator? Thanks 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 8,707 #2 Posted February 12 I could be wrong but I believe the 314-H came with the Eaton 700 which has 1” axles. Not the best for ground engaging implements. I think your 414-8 is better for using your one bottom plow. Others will be along to either agree or correct me!!! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwerl58 704 #3 Posted February 12 Nice find on the implements. I use my 414-8 with a plow, tiller and most other tools. I don't have any issues using it. Plenty of power. Only advantage of the hydro would be the hydraulic lift versus the lift handle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 8,707 #4 Posted February 12 The 314-H has a manual lift Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,887 #5 Posted February 12 Nice scores! I always prefer a gear jammer for ground engaging chores… 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cleat 5,996 #6 Posted February 12 47 minutes ago, c-series don said: The 314-H has a manual lift Funny, my 312H has hydraulic lift. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brockport Bill 1,662 #7 Posted February 12 4 hours ago, c-series don said: I could be wrong but I believe the 314-H came with the Eaton 700 which has 1” axles. Not the best for ground engaging implements. I think your 414-8 is better for using your one bottom plow. Others will be along to either agree or correct me!!! Hi Don -- fyi --- my 314h is model 73401 - - has a hydro lift lever on the column and both Toro and TractorData.com list it with the Eaton 1100 tranny 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrc 812 #8 Posted February 12 a quick way to tell if the eaton is a 700 or 1100 is to look at the rearend. no filter = 700 with filter = 1100 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishroe 261 #9 Posted February 12 It has a filter my scenario is this I have two 414 eights One has a front plow blade on it, with rear ag tires, and four wheelhorse wheel weights The second one has a 36 inch mid mount scraper blade on it. This one I think would be a little less work to get it ready to plow. I would take the rear ag, tires and wheel weights and put them on the second one The 314 H is the only one that has a sleeve hitch so I would take that off and put it on the second 414 eight. Neither of the 414s have anything to lift the plow with. What would I need for that? From the videos I’ve watched. I also need extra weight in the front. Is there something I can bolt on the front to attach weights? I use the plow blade several times a year, so I wanted to leave that intact. Thanks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,753 #10 Posted February 12 (edited) I would use the 414-8 It already has rear wheel weights and Ag tires Remove the blade off the front plow and use that frames front pin hole to add any needed front weights to keep front of tractor down. Edited February 12 by oliver2-44 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishroe 261 #11 Posted February 12 Not a bad idea thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 8,707 #12 Posted February 13 (edited) Okay, my bad. I thought all 314 hydros were manuel lift. Mine is, however it’s an early model, not a Toro. Edited February 13 by c-series don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrc 812 #13 Posted February 13 hi fishroe, you said your 414's have no way to lift the plow. from your picture of the 414-8, the large black lever on the left side of tractor is your lift arm. pull it backwards to raise and push forward to lower plow. regards mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,062 #14 Posted February 13 You need a clevis hitch and the lift cable. Not cheap but worth every penny. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,660 #15 Posted February 13 (edited) The clevis hitch from, "Wheelhorse part&more" is made from 1/2" thich steel the original Clevis hits is made from 3/8" steel. I have twisted my ortingal WH clevis hitch. Edited February 13 by Lee1977 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishroe 261 #16 Posted February 13 Thanks after looking on wheelhorse parts and more I need the rock shaft kit. There’s no chain or cable there. I do have the tube. Will be ordering today does this hitch work good. Also ordering that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishroe 261 #17 Posted February 13 (edited) I will use the hitch to add some weight in front Edited February 13 by Fishroe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sailman 1,291 #18 Posted February 13 The weight in front is a needed improvement. I plowed with a C-160 Hydro and it was real light on the front for steering. I don't think the manual lift will be a problem with the plow. Running a tiller without hydro lift would be a "horse of a different color". Ask me how I know..... Ground breaking with gears has it's advantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,062 #19 Posted February 13 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Sailman said: I don't think the manual lift will be a problem with the plow. If the plow is set up correctly, manual lift is fine. It will only cut as deep as it is set for. And the tiller usually cuts until the case bottoms out as well, so no need to fiddle with the lift once it's down. Edited February 13 by kpinnc 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishroe 261 #20 Posted February 13 Glad to hear that I've never used a plow of any kind so it will be a learning curve. I’m 66 years old and have had a vegetable garden wherever I lived since my early 20’s. Used nothing but a rototiller. I believe the plow will be much faster. After plowing, go over it with the Troy built horse tiller to level it out. You just can’t beat fresh maters and cucumbers. Come on April! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,062 #21 Posted February 14 (edited) 13 hours ago, Fishroe said: I've never used a plow of any kind so it will be a learning curve. Once you get your hitch, setup of the plow is easy. All you need is a 2x4 long enough to fit under both left side tires. Setup on a finished floor is best. Don't try it on uneven ground. You'll notice the hitch plate is slightly angled. This is so when the right side wheels are in the trough you cut previously, the plow sits vertically. Just get the tractor up on the left side on the 2x4 (left front and back wheel), and lower the plow. It should then be perpendicular to the floor when viewed from behind. Adjust the large turnbuckle until the plow sits flush on the floor front to back. That's it for static setup. You can make very fine adjustments as needed from here. Youtube has several videos on setup if you have questions. Just search "Brinly plow setup". Edited February 14 by kpinnc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishroe 261 #22 Posted February 14 That’s helps a lot. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
