Dozer blade support

[sparkys toy 77]

I bought a snow blade maybe 8 years ago and it had an additional front mount bracket that attached to the front mule bracket mount it seems like a great idea to help keep the side to side pressure under control,was wondering what model the plow was made for and if anyone else knows about this ,I have two tractors with plows one for snow work and one for dirt and gravel I have no pictures of the original bracket on the snow machine but I made a close copy for the dirt plow and am sending pictures of it curious of thoughts and comments 

[ebinmaine 68,765]

I don't know if Wheelhorse ever made a FRONT support bracket. 

 

Likely it's a home shop made piece. 

Looks like a medium duty example and well  done.  

 

I've seen heavier duty front supports made so the bar is more vertical and made of thicker round stock. 

 

[Handy Don 12,601]

Thanks for the pictures.

Definitely added by someone.

Agreeing with @ebinmaine that while well-intentioned, it isn’t all that strong.

This is one I made based on a design shared by @Ed Kennell

[peter lena 8,830]

@sparkys toy  nice improvement , most important is that you are responding to a REPEDITIVE PROBLEM , WHAT A CONCEPT , also notice the UPPER STEERING QUADRANT , POP OUT COVER IS GONE , great spot for red aerosol grease , on slid pin and spring , set up , combine that with some , blade swing , lever connections ,detailing / function  and it could swing with ease , pete

[Ed Kennell 39,084]

1 hour ago, sparkys toy said:

curious of thoughts and comments 

Looks kinda over engineered to me.   and that flat bar and multiple moving parts does not seem like it would prevent any L/R movement.

All my tractors are hydros with hydro lift so there is no adjust-a-matic for a grader blade height adjustment  like on the manual lift.

So, I drilled some holes and use a washer and hairpin clip to set a minimum blade height for grading dirt.  

It is also useful to prevent scraping up stones when plowing snow on my stone road.    I made some like Don has shown and I made some from old mule drive frames.

I also added a weight rack to add some front wheel weight to help steering.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[JoeM 7,874]

The only one I know of that WH made was on the XI machines, It used a peg and hole. The mule drive on the xi machine goes in horizontal, so there is no side pressure on the latch.

I made a few like the one you have and they work great. If you other one is working well on the dirt blade I call it a win. If you wanted to reinforce yours a second set of connecting bars would help.

Using a peg and hole one on the vertical mule drive arrangement does put the stress on the latch. Just a note.

 

WH factory xi stabilizer

 

this one I came up with that is similar to yours. And I can drag the front end of the tractor over by the plow.

 

 

 

 

 

[ebinmaine 68,765]

Here's the one I have. 

Made by Hill Billy Jeff a few years ago. 

 

 

 

[peter lena 8,830]

@ebinmaine , nice , glad I  did not make or suggest something like that , yada , yada  , Pete

[Handy Don 12,601]

22 hours ago, JoeM said:

The tube is much stronger than the the bar stock.

The pivot design helps with ground clearance with the blade raised, too, in case that is important.

[ebinmaine 68,765]

Any of you folks have a front support for a PRE attachomatic frame?

 

Mid 60s?

[Handy Don 12,601]

 

 

11 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Any of you folks have a front support for a PRE attachomatic frame?

Mid 60s?

Front-facing transaxle mount?

Pretty sure there was no front connection for a dozer--transaxle and rockshaft only.

This is what I made for the 854 using an attach-a-matic I picked up at the Big Show.

I chose to bolt it together rather than weld it so that I could keep the sides of the attach-a-matic fully clear.

 

[Ed Kennell 39,084]

23 hours ago, JoeM said:

 

this one I came up with that is similar to yours

And much heavier duty.   

[wallfish 17,105]

27 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Any of you folks have a front support for a PRE attachomatic frame?

 

Mid 60s?

Like you are looking for design features for one?

I like @JoeM 's design and you can probably use the bolt holes in the frame to do the same thing.

Replace that piece connecting to the Tach A Matic with 2 longer pieces to use the frame holes

Turn that pivot point 180 deg around and mount it to the plow frame further back towards the rear and use the frame holes.

[pfrederi 17,961]

I made it a part of my front weight carrier.  need that weight to counter the side push of eh 56 inch blade.  You have to slot the hole in the plow frame part to allow for raising an lowering the blade.  Leave it snug on the sides...

 

 

 

 

[Ed Kennell 39,084]

17 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

I made it a part of my front weight carrier.

That actually looks much simpler and stronger than the one I made using an old mule drive frame.     I do switch this tractor to the front tiller and to a deck during mowing season, so the switch over is easier.

 tiller

Edited January 22, 2024 by Ed Kennell

[pfrederi 17,961]

Mine is a Charger 16 no tachmatic but she is a dedicated snowplow horse so swapping stuff isn't an issue.  Yours looks better if yo have to change stuff.

[SylvanLakeWH 26,108]

Hhhmmm... I'm going to add a vertical control bar to my winch mount based on @pfrederi and @Ed Kennell designs... should be easy enough with hole pattern and plow frame location... spring project though... lots of slop on the way...

 

[sparkys toy 77]

On 1/21/2024 at 11:33 AM, ebinmaine said:

I don't know if Wheelhorse ever made a FRONT support bracket. 

 

Likely it's a home shop made piece. 

Looks like a medium duty example and well  done.  

 

I've seen heavier duty front supports made so the bar is more vertical and made of thicker round stock. 

 

 

[sparkys toy 77]

This came factory on it this blade 

[sparkys toy 77]

9 minutes ago, sparkys toy said:

 

 

[sparkys toy 77]

5 hours ago, Handy Don said:

The tube is much stronger than the the bar stock.

The pivot design helps with ground clearance with the blade raised, too, in case that is important.

I agree with the tube stock being stronger I was just showing the copy of the support that I made of the factory one I have on my snow use tractor it works well it's never been bent with all the slamming it gets a lot better than nothing preventing side to side torquing 

[sparkys toy 77]

On 1/21/2024 at 12:02 PM, peter lena said:

@sparkys toy  nice improvement , most important is that you are responding to a REPEDITIVE PROBLEM , WHAT A CONCEPT , also notice the UPPER STEERING QUADRANT , POP OUT COVER IS GONE , great spot for red aerosol grease , on slid pin and spring , set up , combine that with some , blade swing , lever connections ,detailing / function  and it could swing with ease , pete

Good spot on the Pop out cover is missing never knew one existed I'll get that delt with when I pull everything apart for it's semiannual clean and lub

[Ed Kennell 39,084]

4 hours ago, sparkys toy said:

I just noticed that flat bar on the left side that isn't connected to anything.   Is that for a spring lift assist?

 

[peter lena 8,830]

@sparkys toy  another vital part of  plow  /  blade set up is to build it up on 2 milk crates , one up front  just behind  quadrant area , the other in  the back of frame , giving you a TOTAL LOOK SEE AT EVERY FUNCTION ! correct / improve as you go , also set up swing lever mounting / detailing , to improve and eliminate drag , this crate support state , is exactly like hanging from  tractor . have someone else , swing lever / plow , so you can watch and improve . those elastic nuts , washers , lube let you , dial in a perfect easy movement , and lock nut it in place . note the squeeze lever , pull rod , small channel lock , tighten up end connections, eliminate play , lubricate . oil down plow blade front , for snow slide .what ever you build in , is exactly what you will hook up , done this for years , that quadrant , will / should work like a rifle bolt , smooth / very solid , improve it , Pete 

 

[The Freightliner Guy 1,331]

thats a pretty clean LGT