Achto 27,502 #1 Posted January 2 (edited) Once again the holiday's are behind us & my favorite time of year has come. Tractor building time !!!! Normally I'm posting my tractor build in the "Restoration, Modification & Custom" section but this years build is more fitting in this section. Last year during a local pull @WHX?? says "We need to build a puller". I kicked the idea around a bit and had pretty much decide NO due to the price of the rear wheels needed to be competitive. Then.... A friend of mine offered to let me borrow a set of rear wheels for one season if I was serious about building a puller. Well heck !! I guess I'll have a go at building a puller. Blahhh, Blahhh, Blahhh. I know you guys what to see some pictures. Took a wander out back to see what I had laying around ... and ... Welcome to ground zero. Not much to start with, but it's a start. A trip to Jim's storage shed help set me up with a 6 speed tranny & a bunch of other parts needed to cobble something together. Then a trip through my parts shed set me up with a few more things. First step - I wanted the front axle of the tractor to be narrower and hopefully a bit lower. First I tried a 633 front axle but was not exactly happy with it. Next I tried a Lawn Ranger front axle, this I liked but the spindle were too short for the 6" rims that I'm using. Grab some spindles out of another axle and life is good. I think this set up will look great. About 3 to 4" narrower and a bit lower. I do not want to run the rear fuel tank that the C-101 comes with because I wish for the rear tires to be as close together as possible plus I don't have the C-101 rear sheet metal parts any way. Removed the dash tower and replaced it with one from a 1257. Best news came when I closed the hood and it fell right in place with the ability to latch it. The running boards from the C-101 would not work at but I had a set from a Raider 12 that I figured would work. As you can see in the pics above the left board fit perfectly but the right side had some issues fitting with the brake peddle. BTW the brake peddle will be staying but will be used as a gas peddle instead. The tractor will require a dead man's throttle so the brake peddle will be modified for this purpose. A closer look at the running board fitment issue. After a bit of trimming the board lays where it should. Test fit the rear wheels to see if I would have any clearance issues. First issue, the center hole in the rim is not large enough to fit on the stock hubs. Compensation - 5/16" thick spacers to move the rim out a bit. On this note, I don't like the fact that the rim does not fit over the raised portion on the outside of the hub. One more thing that I don't like is that the bolt holes in the rims are 1/2", not 7/16". Worse yet the rim holes are not set up with tapered holes to use regular lug bolts or nuts. Thinking of turning the step down on the face of the hub to fit the hole in the aluminum rims and also tapping the holes out in the hub to 1/2"-20. With the wheels on, I see that I have some tight clearances that I will have to address. I have plenty of clearance on the inside for the tires, in fact they could even be a bit closer together if I wish. The last thing that I looked at today was a belt guard. I think that I can make the C-101 guard work with a little trimming. Will need to get the engine installed before I know for sure. I have some minor fitment issues to work through yet as well as more adventures I'm sure. Feel free to stop by & check out my progress and to see what I can build with "Poor Decisions and No Money". Edited January 2 by Achto 8 19 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 6,989 #3 Posted January 2 I've probably enough pieces parts to assemble an aluminum Olds 215 V8 hanging around. Would that help? 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,871 #4 Posted January 2 I started down the puller path several years ago. I had a good friend that was in the winners circle a lot. Of course I consulted with him about the hobby. He told me it was all up to what you want. Somewhat confused my reply was what do you mean? He said it is a lot of fun and a good time if just like pulling and building a machine. Costly tho. And then he said now if you want to win, that is a complete different thing. More confusion. He said well let me put it to you like this, winners are the the best cheaters having the most money. How about you? You can do the math. (he was a die hard cub guy) After running down the time and cost of the whole thing I just dropped it from my bucket list. 2 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,502 #5 Posted January 2 10 minutes ago, JoeM said: winners are the the best cheaters having the most money. This is true with any motor sport and why I've decide to go with the "stock" class. I been already reading through the 4 pages of rules looking for loop holes, which there are plenty of. 2 3 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,751 #6 Posted January 2 Just to follow ... When I broached this idea it was just to be a POS that we already had and just for fun as a few of the pulling events we have. Well Dan in his analness has just gotta kick it up a notch and go whole hog and build something. Well I for one will not stand in the way of his creativity but Dan? You ain't gonna paint this frigging thing are you? There goes your 500 budget right out the window! NO I says ... no paint... a rat puller...he knows how like orginal. Bastage already knows my distain... ( always wanted to use that word) for drilling holes in ancient sheet metal. 48 minutes ago, Achto said: with the "stock" class. I been already reading through the 4 pages of rules looking for loop holes What with a kill switch on the fuel pump, the ignition, the hitch and up yer bung hole? Oh well ... I guess I'll just be pit crew... 😁 2 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,502 #7 Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, WHX?? said: You ain't gonna paint this frigging thing are you? No paint this year. It will have to earn a paint job. If it places in the top three more than 3 times this summer then it might get a new dress. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,751 #8 Posted January 2 She was mine that dress would come off... ain't nothing like a beauty queen in her work clothes... just sayin... 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,485 #9 Posted January 2 5 minutes ago, WHX?? said: She was mine that dress would come off... ain't nothing like a beauty queen in her work clothes... just sayin... 9 minutes ago, Achto said: No paint this year. It will have to earn a paint job. If it places in the top three more than 3 times this summer then it might get a new dress. What goes on at them pullin' shows anywho? 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,008 #10 Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Achto said: I've decide to go with the "stock" class Does that mean she'll get a 241, or do we change the decals and stuff in a big Onan ? 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,751 #11 Posted January 2 14 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: What goes on at them pullin' shows anywho? 5 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,751 #12 Posted January 2 7 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: Does that mean she'll get a 241, or do we change the decals and stuff in a big Onan ? Leave Dan to answer that but pretty sure it's gonna be a Kohler... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeremi3210 717 #13 Posted January 2 Looks like you got a great start Dan! What engine ya gonna run? Can tell.ya with mine I run outa traction way before the hp. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,502 #14 Posted January 2 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: Does that mean she'll get a 241, or do we change the decals and stuff in a big Onan ? Will be getting a K321. Governor rule for local single cyl. "stock class" = 10hp & under allowed 4200RPM's, under 16hp allowed 4000RPM's, !6hp & up allowed 3700 RPMs Edited January 2 by Achto 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,502 #15 Posted January 2 15 minutes ago, jeremi3210 said: What engine ya gonna run? Will be a 14hp that is massaged to the furthest limit that the rules or my wallet will allow. Which ever comes first. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeremi3210 717 #16 Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, Achto said: Will be a 14hp that is massaged to the furthest limit that the rules or my wallet will allow. Which ever comes first. Mine is bone stock! Other than I may have changed the oil! Probably should check it! 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,502 #17 Posted January 2 (edited) 8 hours ago, jeremi3210 said: Mine is bone stock! Rules state rebuild up to .030 over bore. Up to .030 pop up on the piston allowed. Edited January 2 by Achto 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeremi3210 717 #18 Posted January 2 Still gotta get it to the track! What club you pulling in? Maybe me and Jacob will try to make some! 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,502 #19 Posted January 2 8 minutes ago, jeremi3210 said: What club you pulling in? https://www.wgtpinc.org/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,871 #20 Posted January 2 7 hours ago, WHX?? said: up yer bung hole Come on uncle Jim......that is where he is hiding the nitrous bottle. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,033 #21 Posted January 2 10 hours ago, Achto said: massaged to the furthest limit that the rules or my wallet will allow. Which ever comes first. Dan, once you get started you know the wallet will get stretched as the rules and all of those loopholes make the rulebook very elastic. I'm along for the ride. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,751 #22 Posted January 2 11 hours ago, jeremi3210 said: Still gotta get it to the track! What club you pulling in? Maybe me and Jacob will try to make some! Prolly pull for fun at Plainfield like last year. Big money pull at Pickett fer sure. Be lucky you get your entry fee back place 1st... 2 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,210 #23 Posted January 2 14 hours ago, Achto said: Rules state rebuild up to .030 over bore. Up to .030 pop up on the piston allowed. How much can you shave the head? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,502 #24 Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: How much can you shave the head? Up to .050 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,210 #25 Posted January 2 That should add a pretty fair bit of squeeze. I'll be looking forward to seeing what you do with the engine. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites