417XT

[grinchsr 634]

Looking at a 417XT with a broken drive belt the question is what kind of trans does it have and can it be towed without blowing it up?

[953 nut 55,734]

An Eaton 1100 can be pushed or pulled slowly onto a trailer but not for a long distance.

[grinchsr 634]

So you’re saying it has an Eaton 11

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,090]

Transmission is a Hydro-Gear

Operator manual will have pushing instructions

 

[Handy Don 12,436]

Transmission looks like HydroGear

[grinchsr 634]

Are they any good?

[Handy Don 12,436]

I have touched exactly ONE machine (a 10-year-old Toro 238 5-speed) with a HydroGear and it was doing just fine.

HydroGear is a huge company with a wide range of models and you’ll find them in a LOT of lawn and garden equipment from big-box equipment to commercial zero-turns.

My sense is that from brands like Toro and JD, the hydro strength/quality/performance will align with the strength/quality/performance of the rest of the machine.

 

[grinchsr 634]

Good info Don.  Thanks. Does this trans have a tow valve?

[Handy Don 12,436]

3 hours ago, grinchsr said:

Good info Don.  Thanks. Does this trans have a tow valve?

I don’t know. Guessing not, at least on the lower end models, since such things add cost and opportunities for misuse and warranty issues. I’ve never heard, for example, of a zero turn having tow valves.

The Eaton 1100, for one, uses internal acceleration valves to allow slow movement without power. (BTW, these are darned clever gadgets worth learning about!)

[Bill D 1,932]

55 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

I don’t know. Guessing not, at least on the lower end models, since such things add cost and opportunities for misuse and warranty issues. I’ve never heard, for example, of a zero turn having tow valves.

The Eaton 1100, for one, uses internal acceleration valves to allow slow movement without power. (BTW, these are darned clever gadgets worth learning about!)

I may be wrong but I think all zero turns have tow valves.  There's a 5/8" nut on the pumps that you loosen when you need to tow.  My Exmark walk behind has two, one on each pump.  Pumps are made by Hydrogear.  Not sure if you can see the tow valves in this picture.  They have 1/4" bolts thru them.

[Handy Don 12,436]

4 minutes ago, Bill D said:

My Exmark walk behind has two, one on each pump

Good info, thanks. So maybe depends on the model!

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,090]

From the operator manual and don't miss figure 19

[grinchsr 634]

Perfect   THANK YOU