ebinmaine 67,435 #51 Posted November 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Joe leonardo said: Ignition I dunno what that'd be for. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,194 #52 Posted November 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Joe leonardo said: I need help fast before shop ends the gen light is grounded is that correct, the wiring diagram says one should go to start and the other to ignition Sorry I couldn't answer sooner but that light will just tell you the key switch is in the ON position. The generator light is Cole-Hersee PL 20 RC and you can buy one on 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #53 Posted November 30, 2023 Got the wiring done and the tank patched up tomorrow I get to see if it runs 🤞 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J854D 137 #54 Posted November 30, 2023 @Joe leonardo, a word of caution; the white wire that is on the A terminal of the generator is not heavy/big enough to carry the electrical load of starting the engine. Typically a 6ga. or 4ga. battery type cable is used. I am also concerned about the ignition switch that you are using not having a high enough amp rating to carry the starting load. The Wheel Horse ignition switch #7263 that @953 nut had posted on page two of this thread is what is commonly used on these starter/generator systems. I just don’t want you to have problems when you go to start it up. -JD- 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #55 Posted November 30, 2023 40 minutes ago, J854D said: @Joe leonardo, a word of caution; the white wire that is on the A terminal of the generator is not heavy/big enough to carry the electrical load of starting the engine. Typically a 6ga. or 4ga. battery type cable is used. I am also concerned about the ignition switch that you are using not having a high enough amp rating to carry the starting load. The Wheel Horse ignition switch #7263 that @953 nut had posted on page two of this thread is what is commonly used on these starter/generator systems. I just don’t want you to have problems when you go to start it up. -JD- Alright in the morning I'll rewire that white wire and pray the switch works 🙏 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #56 Posted November 30, 2023 44 minutes ago, J854D said: @Joe leonardo, a word of caution; the white wire that is on the A terminal of the generator is not heavy/big enough to carry the electrical load of starting the engine. Typically a 6ga. or 4ga. battery type cable is used. I am also concerned about the ignition switch that you are using not having a high enough amp rating to carry the starting load. The Wheel Horse ignition switch #7263 that @953 nut had posted on page two of this thread is what is commonly used on these starter/generator systems. I just don’t want you to have problems when you go to start it up. -JD- I've got 10ga I might have to go to the store in the morning 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #57 Posted November 30, 2023 This is all the 4 gauge I got 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,146 #58 Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, J854D said: I am also concerned about the ignition switch You could just add a starter solenoid like the newer wheel Horses. I never did like all that current flowing behind the fuel tank. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #59 Posted November 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: You could just add a starter solenoid like the newer wheel Horses. I never did like all that current flowing behind the fuel tank. Right now it needs to get off my truck I'm gonna try it with the tank off first and if it doesn't fry itself I'll put the tank on but maybe later I'll try it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #60 Posted November 30, 2023 15 hours ago, Ed Kennell said: Got it cranking and it doesn't have spark 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #61 Posted November 30, 2023 Got it cranking and it doesn't have spark 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #62 Posted November 30, 2023 She runs!!!!!! At full throttle non stop I have to manually pull the gov back and ideas? Is it supposed to run full when cold? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,194 #63 Posted December 1, 2023 Glad you got it running Is your throttle cable stuck wide open or will it move? Could be a spring on the throttle/governor linkage isn't in the correct position. Does you linkage look anything like this? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #64 Posted December 1, 2023 54 minutes ago, 953 nut said: Glad you got it running Is your throttle cable stuck wide open or will it move? Could be a spring on the throttle/governor linkage isn't in the correct position. Does you linkage look anything like this? The throttle is home made but the gov spring is loose and it won't return fully 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick3478 428 #65 Posted December 1, 2023 31 minutes ago, Joe leonardo said: The throttle is home made but the gov spring is loose and it won't return fully It's possible the governor just needs adjustment. Also possible the governor has lost one of the flyweights (or other internal engine problem). So try the governor baseline adjustment procedure first, it's pretty painless. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #66 Posted December 1, 2023 monday ill be back at school and ill take some photos 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #67 Posted December 5, 2023 On 11/30/2023 at 6:25 PM, Rick3478 said: It's possible the governor just needs adjustment. Also possible the governor has lost one of the flyweights (or other internal engine problem). So try the governor baseline adjustment procedure first, it's pretty painless. I watched a video and figured it out now it works perfectly 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,837 #68 Posted December 5, 2023 Nice work! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #69 Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) So a few things happened in shop class first I found out why the throttle was not working I readjusted the gov arm and it was definitely better but not great I then noticed the coil had slipped down and was jamming the linkage 🥲 I also found out that my gas tank repair was futile and it still leaks gas, I plan on using a soldering gun to fix the hair line crack down the side and it's empty so I shouldn't die 👍 Edited December 5, 2023 by Joe leonardo 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,435 #70 Posted December 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, Joe leonardo said: it's empty so I shouldn't die 👍 Not dying is a good goal. Always remember that the fumes from gasoline are FAR MORE DANGEROUS than the liquid itself. You may want to just get another tank. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #71 Posted December 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Not dying is a good goal. Always remember that the fumes from gasoline are FAR MORE DANGEROUS than the liquid itself. You may want to just get another tank. I can't find one anywhere 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,435 #72 Posted December 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Joe leonardo said: I can't find one anywhere Try one of our Redsquare methods. K & B Horse Parts. Brian Badman. @76c12091520h Or place an add in our own classified section. Or CALL A to Z Tractor in PA. They're out there.... Maybe not super common. But they're out there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,214 #73 Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe leonardo said: I also found out that my gas tank repair was futile and it still leaks gas, I plan on using a soldering gun to fix the hair line crack down the side and it's empty so I shouldn't die 👍 Your shop teacher will be able to guide you on how to do this safely. Please ask for help! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe leonardo 164 #74 Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Handy Don said: Your shop teacher will be able to guide you on how to do this safely. Please ask for help! I know about 15x more than my shop teacher 😂 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,360 #75 Posted December 5, 2023 There's a saying Those who can't do, teach. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites