Is this a wheel horse?

[Joe leonardo 164]

[ebinmaine 67,435]

Looks like maybe it's either a little too long or the hood hinges maybe in the wrong place?

Can you get a picture of the bottom of the hood to show the hinges?

[Joe leonardo 164]

10 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Looks like maybe it's either a little too long or the hood hinges maybe in the wrong place?

Can you get a picture of the bottom of the hood to show the hinges?

I can in a bit, also the hood latch holes are massive compared to the latch rod

[ebinmaine 67,435]

27 minutes ago, Joe leonardo said:

I can in a bit, also the hood latch holes are massive compared to the latch rod

Bushings might solve that.  

[Joe leonardo 164]

6 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Bushings might solve that.  

Is it supposed to have rubber

Bushings?

[ebinmaine 67,435]

Just now, Joe leonardo said:

Is it supposed to have rubber

Bushings?

Metal of some sort. Brass maybe? 

[Joe leonardo 164]

1 minute ago, ebinmaine said:

Metal of some sort. Brass maybe? 

Ok let me gander at the parts book real quick

[Joe leonardo 164]

3 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Metal of some sort. Brass maybe? 

I didn't see any but I guess I could get some bushings and fit em in there

[ebinmaine 67,435]

3 minutes ago, Joe leonardo said:

I didn't see any but I guess I could get some bushings and fit em in there

Some folks have been known to use door hinge repair bushings

[Joe leonardo 164]

3 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Some folks have been known to use door hinge repair bushings

I don't know the holes are pretty big, my dad could find something I bet

[Joe leonardo 164]

[Pullstart 62,838]

Joe that GT14 cam is likely different.  Most things on that tractor are much bigger, or fit a different framework.

 

The tiller tractor in the background of this picture is a GT14.  Much larger stuff.

[ebinmaine 67,435]

@Pullstart 

Does his hood hinge look right?

We don't have anything that vintage to look at.

[ebinmaine 67,435]

15 minutes ago, Joe leonardo said:

I don't know the holes are pretty big, my dad could find something I bet

If you can't find anything local, take some careful measurements and get on to McMaster Carr 

[Joe leonardo 164]

9 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

Joe that GT14 cam is likely different.  Most things on that tractor are much bigger, or fit a different framework.

 

The tiller tractor in the background of this picture is a GT14.  Much larger stuff.

I found the right on on a-z for 5 bucks

[Pullstart 62,838]

9 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

@Pullstart 

Does his hood hinge look right?

We don't have anything that vintage to look at.

This is a Charger chassis…

 

 

[Pullstart 62,838]

I’m not finding a ton of detailed pictures of the hood and hinge together.

 

If these don’t help I may be able to find the old wood grain hood for better pics.

Edited December 12, 2023 by Pullstart
More photos

[Joe leonardo 164]

So what should I do 

Edited December 12, 2023 by Joe leonardo

[ebinmaine 67,435]

So I'm wondering if maybe that hood is tweaked a little bit at the bottom front.

 

Looks like the back edge by the steering wheel is going back a little too far?

[Joe leonardo 164]

1 minute ago, ebinmaine said:

So I'm wondering if maybe that hood is tweaked a little bit at the bottom front.

 

Looks like the back edge by the steering wheel is going back a little too far?

How would I fix it 😵‍💫

[Joe leonardo 164]

I could put the latch on and then bolt it in 🤔 I don't know it might create some stress on the dash

[ebinmaine 67,435]

1 hour ago, Joe leonardo said:

How would I fix it 😵‍💫

 

 

Not being there to see it physically and also not having one of those specific tractors to compare it'd be a difficult for me to answer accurately.  

 

@Pullstart @Achto  thoughts?

 

Was it me I'd find a good pair of leather gloves and try pushing the hood forward while sitting in or around the driver's seat.  

 

DO NOT DO THAT WITHOUT HAND PROTECTION.  

 

That may be enough to "convince" the hood forward to latch it....

 

 

[Achto 27,565]

16 hours ago, Joe leonardo said:

So what should I do 

 

First off some words of advise "Fit & finish before paint". I.E. make sure every thing fits correctly before painting.

 

Best way to fix the over sized holes for the hood latch = Weld the holes shut, grind the metal flat, leave the hole area a little thicker on the inside than the metal for extra support, drill new 3/16" holes for the hood latch. The rod for the latch is 1/4" with the ends turned down to 3/16" so there is not a lot of contact area for the rod to seat against the sheet metal.

 

Remedy without painting = Put a washer with 3/16" inside diameter (#10 washer) on the hood latch rod on the inside of the hood on both sides.  The washer must not slide over the 1/4" diameter portion of the rod. This will help the rod pinch against the sheet metal when you put the nut on the outside. Not the best but should work.

 

The hood latch should have rubber bushings on each side of the latch lever. These bushings only cushion the latch lever from moving side to side. Push retainers hold the rubber bushings in place. The steel wheels on the lever slip under the dash to hold the hood shut. Pics to show how the latch should look.

 

To readjust the hood - Loosen the bolts that hold the hinge to the hood & try to slide the hood ahead a little bit on the hinge. If your good with a die grinder you can oval out the holes a bit to gain some movement. other wise @ebinmaine's advice on trying to push forward on the hood to tweak it should work. Also once the latch is on, the latch rod will force the hood to move forward as you close the hood.

 

Think I covered a couple issues for you. Give me a shout out if you need more advise. 

Edited December 13, 2023 by Achto

[Joe leonardo 164]

12 minutes ago, Achto said:

 

First off a word of advise "Fit & finish before paint". I.E. make sure every thing fits correctly before painting.

 

Best way to fix the over sized holes for the hood latch = Weld the holes shut, grind the metal flat, leave the hole area a little thicker on the inside than the metal for extra support, drill new 3/16" holes for the hood latch. The rod for the latch is 1/4" with the ends turned down to 3/16" so there is not a lot of contact area for the rod to seat against the sheet metal.

 

Remedy without painting = Put a washer with 3/16" inside diameter (#10 washer) on the hood latch rod on the inside of the hood on both sides.  The washer must not slide over the 1/4" diameter portion of the rod. This will help the rod pinch against the sheet metal when you put the nut on the outside. Not the best but should work.

 

The hood latch should have rubber bushings on each side of the latch lever. These bushings only cushion the latch lever from moving side to side. Push retainers hold the rubber bushings in place. The steel wheels on the lever slip under the dash to hold the hood shut. Pics to show how the latch should look.

 

To readjust the hood - Loosen the bolts that hold the hinge to the hood & try to slide the hood ahead a little bit on the hinge. If your good with a die grinder you can oval out the holes a bit to gain some movement. other wise @ebinmaine's advice on trying to push forward on the hood to tweak it should work. Also once the latch is on, the latch rod will force the hood to move forward as you close the hood.

 

Think I covered a couple issues for you. Give me a shout out if you need more advise. 

Sounds good I'll just bite the bullet and do the permanent fix by welding it

[Achto 27,565]

10 minutes ago, Joe leonardo said:

Sounds good I'll just bite the bullet and do the permanent fix by welding it

 

Take good measurements before welding the holes shut so you know exactly where to drill the new holes.