iangradymartin@outlook.co 0 #1 Posted November 17, 2023 So I bought a b81 for $225 it came with a tube for the rear tire that I'm going to change and a spare starter but I really wanted to hear the thing purr so I got all of my fluids spark plugs and everything was good got a spare battery from my 2008 craftsman what was around a year old, hooked it up and got a small spark from something (no smoke) and then stopped , the guy told me the starter might be at fault but I'm not 100% sure tomorrow I'm going to change it most likely and see what I can do to fix it. Anyways have any of you had issues with that and is a what could the spark mean, Cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,352 #2 Posted November 17, 2023 Could be a loose connection that sparked. Disconnect the battery and then remove and clean all your positive and negative connections. Reassemble and give it another try 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,330 #3 Posted November 17, 2023 to the Ian. @Sparky is the correct member to help you analyze sparks. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iangradymartin@outlook.co 0 #4 Posted November 17, 2023 ok sparky, should I replace the starter with the spare or try the old one and move on from there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,352 #5 Posted November 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, iangradymartin@outlook.co said: ok sparky, should I replace the starter with the spare or try the old one and move on from there? Redo the connections and try it with the old starter first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,394 #6 Posted November 17, 2023 I would suggest you test the extra starter prior to installing it. Even though the battery is only a year old you should have it load tested at an auto parts store, they do it for free. Lets take a logical step by step inspection of your starter problem. Is your PTO in the ON position, a wheel horse will not start with the PTO on. Have you had the battery load tested at an auto parts store? Have you cleaned and tightened all electrical connections including grounds? Are all fuses good and fuse holders cleaned? If these have all been done, we can check components of the starting system as follows; don’t skip a step or you may miss the problem. Be sure the transmission is in neutral and the parking brake is set. Take a pair of automotive jumper cables and connect the black cable to your battery "-" and a good clean spot on the engine. Now connect the other cable to the large post on the starter and touch the other end to the battery "+" terminal, does the starter turn over? If the starter turns over the battery and starter are good. If it didn't turn over try the same steps with the battery in your car/truck, if that cures the problem then the "good" battery wasn't so good. Presuming the starter turned over move the jumper wire from the starter post to the other end of the wire going to the starter which is one of the large posts on the solenoid. If the starter turns over when the battery is touched by the jumper as before then that cable is good, if not you have found your problem. Presuming the starter turned over move that jumper to the other terminal of the solenoid, connect the other end to the battery and use a small piece of wire to temporarily connect the battery "+" terminal to the small terminal on the solenoid, this should cause the solenoid to close and the starter to turn over. If not, the solenoid is probably the problem. If this was successful remove the large jumper cable and use the small jumper wire to the small terminal of the solenoid, the solenoid should close and the starter turn over. If not the cable to the battery is the problem. Presuming all of these have been successful remove the black jumper wire and repeat the small jumper to small terminal, if the starter turns over the ground is good. If all of these components test good then remove your ignition switch, be sure the transmission is in neutral, parking brake on, clutch depressed and PTO off. Use a small jumper to connect the terminals that were connected to the “B” and “S” terminals of the ignition switch. If the starter turns over then the PTO switch and other safety switches are operating properly and your ignition switch may be bad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iangradymartin@outlook.co 0 #7 Posted November 17, 2023 Sounds good I'm 90% sure the battery is good due to the fact I used it in that craftsman all the time and started it 2 times yesterday before using the battery as Donar , Thanks for the Guidance guys I will let you know what happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites