Charger 12

[ebinmaine 68,204]

2 hours ago, Colby G said:

Thank you to whoever gifted the one year supporter membership to me, you do not know how much it really means to me!

That's REALLY cool !! 

[Colby G 233]

Does anybody know how to tow a hydro charger 12? I need to tow it just up the road to be welded and I heard you can't just tow a hydrostatic transmission.

Edited November 13, 2023 by Colby G

[rjg854 11,470]

There should be a tow valve on the tractor that will release the pressure in the transmission so you can tow it. Check your manual and see if it shows you where it is and how to use it.

[Colby G 233]

25 minutes ago, rjg854 said:

There should be a tow valve on the tractor that will release the pressure in the transmission so you can tow it. Check your manual and see if it shows you where it is and how to use it.

I do not have a manual for the tractor, is there anywhere I can download one?

[ebinmaine 68,204]

Just now, Colby G said:

I do not have a manual for the tractor, is there anywhere I can download one?

Search manuals here in Redsquare for your year charger and/or the transmission if that's been swapped.  

There will be instructions in it. 

 

 

[Colby G 233]

3 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Search manuals here in Redsquare for your year charger and/or the transmission if that's been swapped.  

There will be instructions in it. 

 

 

I believe it's a sunstrand, but how do I tell what kind of sunstrand it is?

[daveoman1966 3,758]

If original, the Charger 12 would have the Sundstrand HydroGear model 90-2046.  Here is a pic of the TOW VALVE on top.  

Turn this TOW VALVE 90deg --left or right-- to tow the tractor.  Even then, tow it slowly---at a walking pace...not fast.

[Colby G 233]

25 minutes ago, daveoman1966 said:

If original, the Charger 12 would have the Sundstrand HydroGear model 90-2046.  Here is a pic of the TOW VALVE on top.  

Turn this TOW VALVE 90deg --left or right-- to tow the tractor.  Even then, tow it slowly---at a walking pace...not fast.

I've swapped it out, but idk if it came out of a charger 12, it's quite a bit wider than the old one.

[daveoman1966 3,758]

15 minutes ago, Colby G said:

I've swapped it out, but idk if it came out of a charger 12, it's quite a bit wider than the old one.

Post a couple pics of what you now have... Left side, top, and right side. 

 

[Colby G 233]

3 minutes ago, daveoman1966 said:

Post a couple pics of what you now have... Left side, top, and right side. 

 

 

[Colby G 233]

There's your pictures!👍

Edited November 13, 2023 by Colby G

[daveoman1966 3,758]

Although the GEAR BOX may have been swapped out (wider axles), the HydroGear is still the power source...of which there are but 3 models...90-2046, 90-2062 (GT-14 tractor) and an older version model 310007.  

Noting that the INPUT SHAFT of your pump is the 'Double-D' shape...likely a pre 1972 model.

ANYWAY... the single hyd line shown in your pic effectively bypasses the hydraulic lift system.      

[pfrederi 17,856]

long end to front dirve long to rear push/tow

 

 

[Colby G 233]

14 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

long end to front dirve long to rear push/tow

 

 

What would happen if you overturned it?

[Colby G 233]

21 minutes ago, daveoman1966 said:

Although the GEAR BOX may have been swapped out (wider axles), the HydroGear is still the power source...of which there are but 3 models...90-2046, 90-2062 (GT-14 tractor) and an older version model 310007.  

Noting that the INPUT SHAFT of your pump is the 'Double-D' shape...likely a pre 1972 model.

ANYWAY... the single hyd line shown in your pic effectively bypasses the hydraulic lift system.      

So the last part of that paragraph means that it can just be towed or no?

[daveoman1966 3,758]

Here again is the TOW VALVE (free-wheel valve) with the LEVER in PARALLEL position...for normal operation.  It does not matter whether the 'long' end of the lever is to the front or back of the tractor...either way is for NORMAL operation.  

For towing, turn the TOW VALVE...left or right... so that it is PERPENDICULAR TO the tractor frame. 

That LONG end of the lever is to make it easier to turn...that's all...except that if turned toward the back, it MAY cut into the hyd hose. 

The 2nd pic here is the TOW VALVE removed from the hyd pump end cap.  Note that there is a hole in it...Turning the top LEVER turns this hole to either FRONT (for normal use) blocks fluid from flowing thru a BYPASS.  Turn it Left or Right, then the fluid BYPASSES ---releasing pressure---and allows for towing... SLOWLY.     

 

 

[Colby G 233]

And how do I tow it downhill with it having no real brakes?

[ebinmaine 68,204]

2 minutes ago, Colby G said:

And how do I tow it downhill with it having no real brakes?

 

I know this might not be the answer you're looking for... you don't.

 

Only safe way to do that is to get it into a trailer or bed of something that DOES have proper brakes.   

[ebinmaine 68,204]

It's important to remember that even without an engine that rolling tractor weighs at least 475 lb. 

[Colby G 233]

1 minute ago, ebinmaine said:

It's important to remember that even without an engine that rolling tractor weighs at least 475 lb. 

Omg that's heavier than I thought...

[ebinmaine 68,204]

4 minutes ago, Colby G said:

Omg that's heavier than I thought...

Yeah that's why I added that second post.

The weight  was actually one of the main reasons I got into Wheel Horse in the first place

[Colby G 233]

Does anyone know where I can get the original rear pulley for a charger 12?

[ebinmaine 68,204]

6 hours ago, Colby G said:

Does anyone know where I can get the original rear pulley for a charger 12?

 

Check with Kand B Horse Parts. 

Brian Badman. 

 

@76c12091520h

 

 

 

[Colby G 233]

Would this work for a 1969 hydro charger 12?

 

I ask this question because it says it for a 1970 hydro 12

[ebinmaine 68,204]

Looks like it might but did you check with our own vendors?

Brian Badman. 

Lincoln at A to Z.