Ignition switch?

[Jeff Wondsel 0]

Evening. I have a 1969 Commando 8, 3 spped Riding mower. I need a new ignition switch! Indak 868906 are the only numbers I can pick off the switch. Where can I find a replacement switch? Looks like a 5 pin connector? Help me please! Thanks

Edited October 5, 2023 by Jeff Wondsel
more info.

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,121]

Must have been replaced in the past. Here is the original

A 5-pin 103990 switch can be used if a starter solenoid was added.

 

[ebinmaine 68,738]

58 minutes ago, gwest_ca said:

A 5-pin 103990 switch can be used if a starter solenoid was added.

 

1 hour ago, Jeff Wondsel said:

Evening. I have a 1968 Commando 8 Riding mower. I need a new ignition switch! Indak 868906 are the only numbers I can pick off the switch. Where can I find a replacement switch? Looks like a 5 pin connector? Help me please! Thanks

 

I've done the above conversion. Works well.  

 

Are all 5 pins connected?

What are the letters near them?

 

Those 103990 switches are still readily available.  

 

My advice is to get a good known name brand switch.  

There are cheap replacements out there. 

I've tried them. I've replaced them after a very short time.  

 

Toro. Stens. Standard. Borg warner. Echlin/Napa. 

All decent. 

 

[953 nut 56,091]

15 hours ago, Jeff Wondsel said:

Indak 868906

Did a  for that switch and found none, the only listing for that switch number was your thread on here.

Below is a diagram for wiring an engine with a starter/generator, five pin ignition switch, solenoid, battery ignition and a generator light. If your engine is not equipped with ALL of the items listed ion red let us know and we can help you fins a solution. The wiring of your five pin connector may need to be changed to match the drawing for the 103-990 to work.

[Jeff Wondsel 0]

On 10/4/2023 at 9:40 AM, 953 nut said:

Did a  for that switch and found none, the only listing for that switch number was your thread on here.

Below is a diagram for wiring an engine with a starter/generator, five pin ignition switch, solenoid, battery ignition and a generator light. If your engine is not equipped with ALL of the items listed ion red let us know and we can help you fins a solution. The wiring of your five pin connector may need to be changed to match the drawing for the 103-990 to work.  Please look at the photo I put up. That's the original switch.

 

 

[Jeff Wondsel 0]

 Please look at the photo I put up. That's the original switch.

[Jeff Wondsel 0]

 Please look at the photo I put up. That's the original switch.

[squonk 41,597]

Is this a Commando Vertical shaft Tecumseh engine tractor?  That would explain the Magneto style switch.

[ebinmaine 68,738]

41 minutes ago, squonk said:

Is this a Commando Vertical shaft Tecumseh engine tractor?  That would explain the Magneto style switch.

Good point.  I hadn't even considered that.  

 

@Jeff Wondsel  Do you have the model number for the tractor?

Or more pics of the whole machine?

 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,121]

You must have a Commando V8 model 1-4841

 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,121]

You could add a more common magneto switch if you add a solenoid

 

[953 nut 56,091]

10 hours ago, squonk said:

Is this a Commando Vertical shaft Tecumseh engine tractor?  That would explain the Magneto style switch.

         I fell into the same "It has to be a Kohler trap". 

 Lowell at Wheel Horse Parts or More sells the #8362 switch which is correct for your Commando.  

 .https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/8362-switch-for-wheel-horse/

The price for the replacement switch is about $ 100 so you may want to consider rewiring with a later model switch and a solenoid if you feel comfortable doing the wiring changes. Here is a drawing that will get you going with a 103-991 switch

Edited October 7, 2023 by 953 nut
fat finger

[Jeff Wondsel 0]

11 hours ago, squonk said:

Is this a Commando Vertical shaft Tecumseh engine tractor?  That would explain the Magneto style switch.

Evening. Yes it is. Commando V8, Model 1-4841? I bought a 4 pin ignition switch, but have not figured out yet if It can be used? On original switch there are 2 screwed connectors (S and B). One single bayonet connector (R). Two wires combined in a double female offset bayonet style connector (M, L). Single R wire goes to Cigarette Lighter. Don't need that operational! Here are photos of the original 5 pin switch, and the new 4 pin switch. 

[Jeff Wondsel 0]

11 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

Good point.  I hadn't even considered that.  

 

@Jeff Wondsel  Do you have the model number for the tractor?

Or more pics of the whole machine?

 

Yes I do. I posted photos of the old switch and new one. I can also send you more photos of the tractor if it helps. 

[953 nut 56,091]

11 hours ago, Jeff Wondsel said:

I bought a 4 pin ignition switch, but have not figured out yet if It can be used?

Are there any numbers on the replacement switch you bought? What application was the replacement switch originally on? Do you know for sure the replacement switch is good? Do you have an Ohm meter so you can do some tests on the replacement switch?

[lynnmor 7,361]

Is there a solenoid on this tractor?  It may be that the heavy terminals with threaded holes carry the full starter load.

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,121]

There are also the number of key positions.

3 position - Off-Run-Start

4 position - Off-Run with lights-Run-Start

[Jeff Wondsel 0]

On 10/6/2023 at 11:21 AM, gwest_ca said:

You must have a Commando V8 model 1-4841

 

Morning. Looks like what I need!? Do you know where I can find one?

[Jeff Wondsel 0]

On 10/6/2023 at 11:21 AM, gwest_ca said:

You must have a Commando V8 model 1-4841

 

Looks like what I need!? Do you have any leads on where I can find one? Thanks!

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,121]

Any Toro dealer

https://www.partstree.com/parts/toro-8362/

[953 nut 56,091]

10 hours ago, Jeff Wondsel said:

Looks like what I need!? Do you have any leads on where I can find one? Thanks!

Did you read post # 12 where I gave you what you were looking for?

On 10/6/2023 at 8:01 PM, 953 nut said:

         I fell into the same "It has to be a Kohler trap". 

 Lowell at Wheel Horse Parts or More sells the #8362 switch which is correct for your Commando.  

 .https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/8362-switch-for-wheel-horse/

The price for the replacement switch is about $ 100 so you may want to consider rewiring with a later model switch and a solenoid if you feel comfortable doing the wiring changes. Here is a drawing that will get you going with a 103-991 switch

 

[Jeff Wondsel 0]

On 10/6/2023 at 11:21 AM, gwest_ca said:

You must have a Commando V8 model 1-4841

Morning. Sorry. I have some trouble navigating all the information! I finally found what you sent. Thanks. I ordered the switch, and now we wait. I'll repost after installing new switch. Again. Thanks for all your help! Jeff

Looks like what I need!? Do you have any leads on where I can find one? Thanks!

[953 nut 56,091]

20 hours ago, 953 nut said:

 Lowell at Wheel Horse Parts or More sells the #8362 switch which is correct for your Commando.  

 .https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/8362-switch-for-wheel-horse/

This is the third time I have posted this link on your question.   If you click on the RED link above it will take you to a vendor that sells the switch you are looking for.