kennymc7022 18 #1 Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) How uncommon are the 1046 tractors I have one and the only thing I see about them is in all red considering sale it when I got it had a hi/lo and knew that wasn’t correct so put a 3 speed back in it Edited August 30, 2023 by kennymc7022 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,782 #2 Posted August 30, 2023 It’s hard to say how uncommon they are, considering Wheel Horse did not record production numbers. I haven’t seen many if any, bu that doesn’t mean they weren’t built much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob J. 1,941 #3 Posted August 30, 2023 I’ve been told there were approximately 250 units produced. It was a “special” WH made. 603 and 1045 being some others. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennymc7022 18 #4 Posted August 30, 2023 Sure wish mine was that clean nice tractor Rob J 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,758 #5 Posted August 30, 2023 Guys gotta believe that à 1046 is an updated 1045. Guessing the 1045 had such good sales they followed it up with the 1046. I know I would allow one in my herd. Might just be a bucket lister. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob J. 1,941 #6 Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, WHX?? said: Guys gotta believe that à 1046 is an updated 1045. Guessing the 1045 had such good sales they followed it up with the 1046. I know I would allow one in my herd. Might just be a bucket lister. My understanding is they created the 1046 to use up the low oil pan 10hp motors left over from the 1045. Which was made to use up 854 parts. That’s my understanding anyways. 1046 is a long frame whereas the 1045 is a short frame. Edited August 30, 2023 by Rob J. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,758 #7 Posted August 30, 2023 I would believe that Rob. Odd that the 1046 was not a short frame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob J. 1,941 #8 Posted August 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, WHX?? said: I would believe that Rob. Odd that the 1046 was not a short frame. Yep is got the longer belt guard with no embossed spot for the decal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,049 #9 Posted August 30, 2023 42 minutes ago, Rob J. said: My understanding is they created the 1046 to use up the low oil pan 10hp motors left over from the 1045. Which was made to use up 854 parts. That’s my understanding anyways. 1046 is a long frame whereas the 1045 is a short frame. The 1045 used the Kohler K241AS-46219A engine as did the 1046, 1055 and 1075. I had always heard that the 1045 was the last of the crossover units built with the square hood and round rear fenders but now and then another one pops up that isn't very common. @kennymc7022 and @Rob J., is the metal tag below the dashboard stamped 1046? Here is a listing from our files section of tractors that used the low oil pan. 1964 model 1045 - K241AS-46219A - Uses battery ignition 1965 model 1045 - K241AS-46219A - Uses battery ignition - Often considered a 1964 model but also in the 1965 manual 1965 model 1055 - K241AS-46219A - Uses battery ignition 1965 model 1075 - K241AS-46219A - Uses battery ignition 1966 model 1046 - K241S-46219A - Uses battery ignition Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob J. 1,941 #10 Posted August 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, 953 nut said: 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennymc7022 18 #11 Posted August 30, 2023 Yep 953 nut tag is stamped T 1046 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob J. 1,941 #12 Posted August 30, 2023 4 hours ago, WHX?? said: Guys gotta believe that à 1046 is an updated 1045. Guessing the 1045 had such good sales they followed it up with the 1046. I know I would allow one in my herd. Might just be a bucket lister. I gotta tell ya this tractor is a beast. It’s built for work for sure, all it’s missing is the two speed tranny for heavy ground engagement duties. When I start my C-160 and this guy side by side I can’t really tell much difference in the two. My 1046’s days of heavy work are over for now. I just fire it up and spin it around the property. It is the smoothest operating tractor I own. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennymc7022 18 #13 Posted August 30, 2023 Yeah this one needs some attention but runs and drives good considering let it go just not sure what to ask for it really 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,017 #14 Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, 953 nut said: The 1045 used the Kohler K241AS-46219A engine as did the 1046, 1055 and 1075. I had always heard that the 1045 was the last of the crossover units built with the square hood and round rear fenders but now and then another one pops up that isn't very common. @kennymc7022 and @Rob J., is the metal tag below the dashboard stamped 1046? Here is a listing from our files section of tractors that used the low oil pan. 1964 model 1045 - K241AS-46219A - Uses battery ignition 1965 model 1045 - K241AS-46219A - Uses battery ignition - Often considered a 1964 model but also in the 1965 manual 1965 model 1055 - K241AS-46219A - Uses battery ignition 1965 model 1075 - K241AS-46219A - Uses battery ignition 1966 model 1046 - K241S-46219A - Uses battery ignition Also : 1056 1966 Lawn & Garden Tractor 1056 4-Speed Kohler K241AS-46333D 10 Wheel Horse 5053 1076 1966 Lawn & Garden Tractor 1076 Automatic Kohler K241AS-46333D 10 Sundstrand 3100077 Used the K 241AS but a different spec. I wonder if the "A" engine is a spark advance engine and the "D" is compression release like the K181's were. My 1075 with the "A" engine was a beast to start at times. EDIT : Illustrated parts lists 68 pages 2.34MB Issued 3/82 Revised 7/93 The following engines have the spark advance camshaft K241, Suffix prior to “D” K241 (10hp or 7.5KW) 1963 model 953 - Uses K241S-46135A 1964 model 1045 - Uses K241AS-46219A 1964 model 1054 - Uses K241S-46215A 1965 model 1054A - Uses ? K241S-47176 - Looks wrong and K301-47176 is a 12hp service engine 1965 model 1055 - Uses K241AS-46219A 1965 model 1075 - Uses K241AS-46219A 1966 model 1046 - Uses K241S-46219A 1966 model 1056 - Uses K241AS-46333D - Should be K241S? 1966 model 1076 - Uses K241AS-46333D - Should be K241S? Edited August 30, 2023 by squonk 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,758 #15 Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) I'll have to have a spec look on my 1055 1045 with the short pan. Both take some finesse on the key to get rolling and both have non ACR. Might have to call dibs you decide to sell Kenny. Lets yak about it. Edited August 30, 2023 by WHX?? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennymc7022 18 #16 Posted August 31, 2023 Whx you can message me on Facebook messenger if you would like 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,758 #17 Posted August 31, 2023 I don't FB much Kenny... not sorry 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,017 #18 Posted August 31, 2023 PM each other on RS for crying out loud. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob J. 1,941 #19 Posted August 31, 2023 2 hours ago, squonk said: PM each other on RS for crying out loud. Or just get each others phone number and text.?.?😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob J. 1,941 #20 Posted August 31, 2023 16 hours ago, squonk said: Also : 1056 1966 Lawn & Garden Tractor 1056 4-Speed Kohler K241AS-46333D 10 Wheel Horse 5053 1076 1966 Lawn & Garden Tractor 1076 Automatic Kohler K241AS-46333D 10 Sundstrand 3100077 Used the K 241AS but a different spec. I wonder if the "A" engine is a spark advance engine and the "D" is compression release like the K181's were. My 1075 with the "A" engine was a beast to start at times. EDIT : Illustrated parts lists 68 pages 2.34MB Issued 3/82 Revised 7/93 The following engines have the spark advance camshaft K241, Suffix prior to “D” K241 (10hp or 7.5KW) 1963 model 953 - Uses K241S-46135A 1964 model 1045 - Uses K241AS-46219A 1964 model 1054 - Uses K241S-46215A 1965 model 1054A - Uses ? K241S-47176 - Looks wrong and K301-47176 is a 12hp service engine 1965 model 1055 - Uses K241AS-46219A 1965 model 1075 - Uses K241AS-46219A 1966 model 1046 - Uses K241S-46219A 1966 model 1056 - Uses K241AS-46333D - Should be K241S? 1966 model 1076 - Uses K241AS-46333D - Should be K241S? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,049 #21 Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, squonk said: I wonder if the "A" engine is a spark advance engine and the "D" is compression release like the K181's were. In Kohler nomenclature the "A" indicates a special oil pan. The last letter of the Spec. number will let you know what camshaft was used. on the 241 a Spec with A, B or C is spark advance. Spec of D or higher will have the ACR cam. Edited August 31, 2023 by 953 nut 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CasualObserver 3,408 #22 Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) Much like the 754, there is no manual to document the 1046 model. If I remember correctly there is only a single typed page, like a factory memo, describing the parts that make it different from the 1056. Edit... Found it. Edited August 31, 2023 by CasualObserver additional info 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,031 #23 Posted August 31, 2023 Would anyone with a 1046 mind posting the engine spec number and measure the diameter of the pto shaft? This may be where the 10hp pto shaft was increased to 1-1/8" from the early 1". Suspect there is a mistake in the posted info. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,758 #24 Posted August 31, 2023 4 hours ago, CasualObserver said: Much like the 754, there is no manual to document the 1046 model Kinda makes it a desirable collector model right there. Just guessing again here but possibly WH knew they weren't going to produce that many hence no OM?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,127 #25 Posted August 31, 2023 18 hours ago, WHX?? said: I don't FB much Kenny... not sorry Appears you have a twin out there Madge, using your name on Fb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites