Noisy turbines.

[formariz 11,987]

37 minutes ago, lynnmor said:

If your population is dropping, perhaps we can send some of our excess that are streaming across the border

Don’t bother. Record number of Americans moved and are constantly moving over to live here in their retirement. It’s in the thousands . Some areas as by popular shore points one actually thinks we are in the States. The unfortunate part of that is that they are driving up prices of everything particularly real estate. Of course those don’t drive up the population by having more children. They should. It’s a country of Seniors.

Edited August 12, 2023 by formariz

[peter lena 8,634]

@formariz  most of our wind power is off shore , those also have the , underwater trbines , to pick up ebb and flow underwater  tides . can understand the noise issue , have to be working on it ,  saw a number of small turbines and solar in arizona , quiet / reliable  , zero cost for power . saw a number of  private power set ups , that were thoroughly  thought out , in ground cooling , extra thick walls etc.  adapting to a hot climate , pete

[Stormin 9,981]

 The thing with wind turbines is that they use electric to rotate them until the wind gets strong enough to take over. Wind gets too strong and they have to be shut down. In this Septic Isle the power companies get paid compensation by the government when they don't run.

  Not far from me is a river estuary. Tide comesin and goes out twice a day. Now it has been proposed several times to build a barrage across it with turbines in. That would be beneficial on two counts. Produce electric when the tide ebbs and flows. And with a road over it for light traffic would cut out a 50 mile journey to get to the opposite side. What's stopping it is the environmentalists.

[Beap52 815]

About 15 years ago an oil line was being laid and it crossed the family farm.  Our farm is "L" shaped and they wanted 14 acres in the bend of the "L".  They made mom an offer and when compared to what her and dad bought the farm for in 1962 she thought she had struck gold.  Finally after some negotiations, (and mom saying "yes" to quickly to the "nice young man" while my brother was negotiating) the company bought the 14 acres. (I told mom that she got less for her land than what the company paid for the backhoe to move snow.)  Now we have a high-fenced barbed wire topped fence with huge blue buildings that looks and is lit up like a prison sitting on the crest of the hill on the farm.   The pond dad used to irrigate the farm serves as my main source of fish.  While fishing the sound is like sitting there with a big diesel truck idling.  In the past couple of years,  we have been contacted by middle men who try to locate land for solar power companies.  When the pumping station was put in, huge power lines were run and these are one of the reasons solar companies are interested in mom's land.  They offer 20 year lease and will develop the land and when done, supposedly return it to it's original state.  The proposals are very complicated with what seems to us as several "conditions" to let them out of the contract .  We hired a lawyer who works on behalf of landowners who are approached by commercial buyers and they had a few concerns.  It was interesting that when the middle man first contacted my brother (who lives on the farm) the broker was very interested in making a deal but after meeting with the lawyer he said the company was going to wait before developing more solar farms.  I figure the company was expecting the then new administration to sweeten the deal for green energy producers.  By the way, the solar farm developers were going to double the income from the farm when compared to row crop.  It would seem to me that if the government would stay out of the energy needs of our country, and let capitalism run it's course that we would be better off.  Yes, we might pay a higher monthly energy bill but government's involvement can't be any less expensive by the time our money filters through the government coffers. 

[Rob J. 1,942]

Let supply and demand decide and not corporations and government deciding for us. Government shouldn’t be forcing anything on the citizenry. The citizenry overwhelmingly does not want electric cars. It only makes America poorer and China richer everytime you see a windmill or solar panel go up. It does nothing to save the planet. I’m all for new ideas that work. But the idea has to be better than the last and we’re not there yet, not even close. 

[ebinmaine 67,623]

LOTS of interesting banter in here.... 

[SylvanLakeWH 25,600]

No such thing as clean or green energy. ALL forms of energy convert something to something else - at a cost.

 

Always.

 

Pick your poison...

 

 

[JoeM 7,874]