PTO

[Retired Wrencher 5,451]

I do not see an area to post this.SO.. Looking for PTO P/N`s. Could not find this in the manual section. I need the the center pice on the three pulley hub for the old style Sart/Gent tractors. This has a cut out in the center to accept the long rod.  I have the pulley hub but it is a newer style. And will the old style will fit in the newer hub? Sorry hard to talk about this with no information on hand.

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,041]

One of these?

 

[Retired Wrencher 5,451]

2 hours ago, gwest_ca said:

One of these?

 

Thanks Garry for all you do! Any ideas how to get that internal snap ring off.

[Gasaholic 224]

Internal snap ring? I assume you mean on the stub shaft (that connects to the PTO engagement rod)? I'd take out the big snap ring that holds bearing into the stack pulley and press out the bearing, then popping snap rings off and pressing out the old stub shaft is easy enough.  New style stub shaft (with the hole instead of slot) should fit as they use the same bearing into the stack pulley, so if you can't find the slotted stub shaft, it is possible you could modify a new style stub shaft (cut slot through to the drilled hole and then past it, and drill your smaller pin retainer hole across the slot?)  never tried that myself as it was fairly rare at least for us in our shop (which had been a wheel horse dealer since the early 60's) to have to replace the slotted stub shafts, although we often did the newer style stub shafts quite a bit (It was too easy to adjust the PTO engagement tension way too tight and side-loaded the bearing & stub shaft, snap ring groove wallowed out and no longer held things right)  Other than that the snap rings for the most part came out with snap ring pliers , although there were some (can't think of what they were called offhand) that we'd have to remove with a couple small flat screwdrivers (similar to spiral rings) for the large ball bearing. 

[Retired Wrencher 5,451]

1 hour ago, Gasaholic said:

Internal snap ring? I assume you mean on the stub shaft (that connects to the PTO engagement rod)? I'd take out the big snap ring that holds bearing into the stack pulley and press out the bearing, then popping snap rings off and pressing out the old stub shaft is easy enough.  New style stub shaft (with the hole instead of slot) should fit as they use the same bearing into the stack pulley, so if you can't find the slotted stub shaft, it is possible you could modify a new style stub shaft (cut slot through to the drilled hole and then past it, and drill your smaller pin retainer hole across the slot?)  never tried that myself as it was fairly rare at least for us in our shop (which had been a wheel horse dealer since the early 60's) to have to replace the slotted stub shafts, although we often did the newer style stub shafts quite a bit (It was too easy to adjust the PTO engagement tension way too tight and side-loaded the bearing & stub shaft, snap ring groove wallowed out and no longer held things right)  Other than that the snap rings for the most part came out with snap ring pliers , although there were some (can't think of what they were called offhand) that we'd have to remove with a couple small flat screwdrivers (similar to spiral rings) for the large ball bearing. 

Thanks you  for your help and enjoyed your reply.The p/o had the wrong pto on engine and did not have the right one for it so I pulled off the shaft clutch off and I just ordered a new #5197 for the PTO And I will get some new snap rings also. Looking to find some extensions for the S/Ring tool like 4” would be great. They have a tool for this but as you may know there big $$$ for how many time you would use it.

Edited August 7, 2023 by Retired Wrencher