Dunedainranger 4 #1 Posted July 29, 2023 Hello, I picked up a C120 Automatic, believe it to be '76 model. Came with a mower deck, IH 42" plow blade, and a WH snow blower. I am having a hard time identifying my mower deck, I am assuming a 42". These are the measurements I took: Blade tip to tip - 40.75" Discharge tip, to opposite wall - 41.25" Blade length - 13.75 - 13.875" Width of deck - 21.125 Length of deck - 47.125 Finally, I really had a hard time getting the deck attached. It seems to have bent brackets and a round bar that wants to dislodge as soon as it gets fully mounted. The front lifting bracket was not easy to get locked into place. The non-discharge side height adjustment wheel had to be removed to give clearance when mounting. I also found signs of patch work, new hardware, etc. I would like as much info as possible so I can start rwbuilding this thing - the JD is down and I really need to mow the grass. I know the WH is solid machine, just need mower drive belt, spindle belt is OK, and help with repair suggestions based off the above observations. Thank you, everyone. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,405 #2 Posted July 30, 2023 I see you’re missing the adjustment rod that goes here (circled in the picture). Also that deck looks older than the tractor, I’m wondering if it’s been modified to work with your year tractor. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,405 #3 Posted July 30, 2023 Here’s a couple better pics of what you’re missing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dunedainranger 4 #4 Posted July 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Sparky said: I see you’re missing the adjustment rod that goes here (circled in the picture). Also that deck looks older than the tractor, I’m wondering if it’s been modified to work with your year tractor. I have it. It was disconnected and hanging to the rear of the deck. Just hard to see it. Any guess why the one wheel interferes with the rear tire? I have more pictures showing some modifocations to the deck that I could find. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,096 #5 Posted July 30, 2023 42" side discharge mower DNA 1966-1967 model RL-426 replaced by 1968 model 5-1421 1969 model 5-1422 1970 model 5-1423 1971 model 5-1000 1971-1972 model 5-1001 1973-1974 model 5-1010 1975 model 5-1011 1975 model 5-1012 1976 model 65-42MS01 - Online Toro parts illustration is the 48" SD deck 1976 model 65-42MS02 - Online Toro parts illustration is the 48" SD deck 1977 model 75-42MS01 - These 42" side discharge decks all use blades with 5/8" x 3/4" double-D center hole unless the spindles have been upgraded (Do not have operator manual) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These decks all use blades with a 3/4" center hole. 1977 model 75-42MS02 replaced by (Do not have operator manual) 1978 model 85-42MS01 (Do not have operator manual) 1979 model 95-42MS00 (Do not have operator manual) 1979 model 95-42MS01 (Do not have operator manual) 1980 model 05-42MS01 (Have operator manual) 1981-1983 model 05-42MS02 1984 model 05-42MS03 - Last year for bearings with 3/4" ID 1985 model 05-42MS04 - First year for bearings with 17mm ID unless older spindles were updated. 1986-1988 model 05-42MS05 1989 model 15-42SC01 1990 model 15-42SC02 1990-1992 model 15-42SC03 1993-2007 and 2009-2012 model 78345 - These decks all use blades with a 3/4" center hole. Note - 17mm is .669" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dunedainranger 4 #6 Posted July 30, 2023 10 hours ago, gwest_ca said: 42" side discharge mower DNA 1966-1967 model RL-426 replaced by 1968 model 5-1421 1969 model 5-1422 1970 model 5-1423 1971 model 5-1000 1971-1972 model 5-1001 1973-1974 model 5-1010 1975 model 5-1011 1975 model 5-1012 1976 model 65-42MS01 - Online Toro parts illustration is the 48" SD deck 1976 model 65-42MS02 - Online Toro parts illustration is the 48" SD deck 1977 model 75-42MS01 - These 42" side discharge decks all use blades with 5/8" x 3/4" double-D center hole unless the spindles have been upgraded (Do not have operator manual) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These decks all use blades with a 3/4" center hole. 1977 model 75-42MS02 replaced by (Do not have operator manual) 1978 model 85-42MS01 (Do not have operator manual) 1979 model 95-42MS00 (Do not have operator manual) 1979 model 95-42MS01 (Do not have operator manual) 1980 model 05-42MS01 (Have operator manual) 1981-1983 model 05-42MS02 1984 model 05-42MS03 - Last year for bearings with 3/4" ID 1985 model 05-42MS04 - First year for bearings with 17mm ID unless older spindles were updated. 1986-1988 model 05-42MS05 1989 model 15-42SC01 1990 model 15-42SC02 1990-1992 model 15-42SC03 1993-2007 and 2009-2012 model 78345 - These decks all use blades with a 3/4" center hole. Note - 17mm is .669" So if I am understanding this correctly, I have 65-42MS01? It's definitely a 42". If so, would my spindle belt be a Toro 1594, and mower drive belt be a Toro 102742? Thank you for your help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,722 #7 Posted July 30, 2023 @Dunedainranger in addidition to many other areas that need help , after you pull of the blades for replacement , would ,get some KRIOL , OR DEEP CREEP penetrating oil totaly on / into that crusty bottom side , would also prop it up to the sun , usubg the lift frame against something solid , have any 2 x 8 wood ? prop it up to angle the sun , so the deck gets hot and sucks in the grunge killing lubricant . you will have a lot of options , if you are going to rebuild the spindles , new bearings , with a clean out and re grease , hi temp 550 deg lucas grease , related idler pulleys , also muel drive .pto drive , basically the more issues you eliminate while you are their , the easier / quieter that deck will run . also realise as a newbie , that might seam overwhelming . overall conditition of that deck , reflects , painting , and little else . lots of related rebuilding info on this site , take advantage of it , good luck , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,096 #8 Posted July 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Dunedainranger said: So if I am understanding this correctly, I have 65-42MS01? It's definitely a 42". If so, would my spindle belt be a Toro 1594, and mower drive belt be a Toro 102742? Thank you for your help. Belts usually did not change - all 42" side discharge decks use the same belts. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dunedainranger 4 #9 Posted July 30, 2023 1 hour ago, gwest_ca said: Belts usually did not change - all 42" side discharge decks use the same belts. Well, thats what I am gettibg at. Can you confirm those are correct belts? The initial paragraph was a bit much to sort through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,096 #10 Posted July 30, 2023 I see Drive belt 102742 (1/2" x 103") Spindle belt 6738 (1/2" x 86") Many illustrated parts lists are shared with a similar but larger deck but often fail to identify what deck (42" and 48") uses what belts. That is why the belts have ben added to the deck information page. Click on the fuzzy picture in the link to see them 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dunedainranger 4 #11 Posted July 31, 2023 On 7/30/2023 at 12:18 PM, gwest_ca said: I see Drive belt 102742 (1/2" x 103") Spindle belt 6738 (1/2" x 86") Many illustrated parts lists are shared with a similar but larger deck but often fail to identify what deck (42" and 48") uses what belts. That is why the belts have ben added to the deck information page. Click on the fuzzy picture in the link to see them Thank you, sir. I appreciate your help in this. I just wanted to verify Share this post Link to post Share on other sites