bid 5 #1 Posted July 27, 2023 Hi I am considering a wheel horse 416 with the kohler engine. I've had big trouble with Kohler sv600 courage and am hesitant. Looking for opinions on this engines reliability and known issues Thanks bid 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,318 #2 Posted July 27, 2023 The Kohler Courage line was a huge failure for Kohler…so much that they changed the lines names to “hide” the fact that you were still buying a Courage. The Kohler K series and Magnum series (not sure what you’re looking at) are in no way on the same low level as the Courage motors. And if you buy this tractor you’re talking about we are here to assist you should a hiccup happen. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bid 5 #4 Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) Hey thanks for posting a response. It's aK 341s engine on a 416. I don't know how old it is but it's got an ignition coil on it so I assume there's a distributor and and points. And yes I'm very happy to hear they have nothing to do with that ridiculous courage engine. Once again thanks for your response and thanks for offering support I'm going to try and look at this tractor as soon as the guy gets back to me take care Edited July 27, 2023 by bid 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,535 #5 Posted July 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, bid said: Hey thanks for posting a response. It's aK 341s engine on a 416. I don't know how old it is but it's got an ignition coil on it so I assume there's a distributor and and points. And yes I'm very happy to hear they have nothing to do with that ridiculous courage engine. Once again thanks for your response and thanks for offering support I'm going to try and look at this tractor as soon as the guy gets back to me take care Another positive vote for the Kohler single K341. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,232 #6 Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, bid said: Hey thanks for posting a response. It's aK 341s engine on a 416. I don't know how old it is but it's got an ignition coil on it so I assume there's a distributor and and points. And yes I'm very happy to hear they have nothing to do with that ridiculous courage engine. Once again thanks for your response and thanks for offering support I'm going to try and look at this tractor as soon as the guy gets back to me take care The 416 started out with Kohlers but switched to two-cylinder P216 Onans. I believe that was in ’88 or ’89? If you get the model/serial numbers off the tractor, someone can nail it down for you. With a one-cylinder engine, there is no distributor--the coil connects directly to the spark plug. There are points--very easily accessible and adjusted. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sailman 1,291 #7 Posted July 28, 2023 I have both a 70's C-160 and a newer 416-8 both with the K 341 and have nothing but the utmost respect for those beasts. I specifically wanted the 416 with the single Kohler, not the Onan, and mine does not have all the idiot lights. I'm a KISS guy and the K-341 does NOT disappoint. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bid 5 #8 Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Sailman said: I have both a 70's C-160 and a newer 416-8 both with the K 341 and have nothing but the utmost respect for those beasts. I specifically wanted the 416 with the single Kohler, not the Onan, and mine does not have all the idiot lights. I'm a KISS guy and the K-341 does NOT disappoint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bid 5 #9 Posted July 28, 2023 Sailman I'm a KISS guy too and that's what attracted me to these Wheel Horses with K series engines Thanks for your comments bid 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,535 #10 Posted July 28, 2023 5 hours ago, bid said: I'm a KISS guy too and that's what attracted me to these Wheel Horses with K series engines Wait'll you get to running and working a Wheelhorse. These tractors are beasts. My Other Half and I have ... A few.... We do work them. MANY chores around the acreage. You'll appreciate the simple yet excellent build quality for maintenance or if you do a restoration too. We've done several. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacer 3,173 #11 Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) The K341 is possibly THE best engine out there (course I'm a bit partial) Its got the power, durability, easy work on, still lots of parts....... They are just great engines!! Edited July 28, 2023 by pacer typo 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,065 #12 Posted July 28, 2023 5 hours ago, pacer said: The K361 is possibly If referring to the 16hp, don't you mean K341? K361 was the single 18hp with overhead valves. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacer 3,173 #13 Posted July 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, kpinnc said: don't you mean K341? OOOPS My sausage sized fingers did it again..............yes. K341 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,756 #14 Posted July 28, 2023 7 hours ago, pacer said: The K341 is possibly THE best engine out there (course I'm a bit partial) Its got the power, durability, easy work on, still lots of parts....... They are just great engines!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
23 Reo 229 #15 Posted July 29, 2023 Too much Kissing. I'm going home. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites