Remove Steering Wheel 1985 314-8

[hotajax 223]

I need to remove wheel so I can see what type of hub it is.  There's a small hole from the side that might be a pin or an allen screw.  Can't tell what it is.  Any ideas?  Thanks in advance.

[peter lena 8,619]

@hotajax called a TENSION  PIN, need a size to size  flat face round drift pin . 3, lb hammer , most iimportant  detail is to use a solid wood beam against the wheel base shaft area , to wall. the more solid that 3 lb hammer hits  the easier that pin moves , penetrating oil soak. any wheel bounce is bad , you wnat solid impack , pete 

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,315]

2 minutes ago, peter lena said:

 penetrating oil soak. 

  The oil soak is super important…start soaking it now and re soak it for the next 2 or 3 days before you even start. 

[hotajax 223]

@peter lena

Thanks for your reply.  What do you mean about the solid wood beam against the wheel base shaft area, to wall?  Sounds like I better start soaking daily.  But, please tell me what "to wall" means.  Thanks. 

Edited July 10, 2023 by hotajax

[peter lena 8,619]

@hotajax  exactly that  , maybe a pipe clamp bolted to a  2x4  or heavier , that clamps to the steering shaft area . end of wood beam beam wedged into a wall corner , or held to wall by a helper  . the more solid the better , that drift pumch should be a solid hit , thats what makes the  pin move . done that many times . pete

[ri702bill 8,316]

As Pete said - place a length of wood - 2x3 between the steering shaft below the wheel  side opposite the hammer and other end seated solidly up against the garage inner wall stud - the key is solid - Use a RollPin Punch if you have one...

Once the pin is out, you are NOT done - the steel hex hub may (most likely is) rusted to the shaft. The wheel hub is overmolded onto that hex - go easy.

IF you hub already has splits in the plastic at the pin area, it may very well break apart when you try to remove it..... been there, done that... If you break the wheel, the hub opens up and removing it gives good access to the hex for removal........

 

Curious - are you in Solebury??

Edited July 10, 2023 by ri702bill

[JCM 9,136]

@hotajax  Try this for removing that roll pin. This is a little bit different on a 420, same basic principle. Steering wheel hub  mount on a 420 instead of a roll pin through the steering wheel.

[peter lena 8,619]

@hotajax  https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail/ms-clamp-20193037155.html  could even consider a pipe hanger to bolt on to wood or weld on a pipe , @JCM  first picture  showes the solid stopping effect needed to get that pin moving . pete

[JCM 9,136]

Riser ring / Friction clamp could be used as well as Pete noted in that link.

[kpinnc 12,013]

4 hours ago, hotajax said:

I need to remove wheel so I can see what type of hub it is. 

 

I can simplify that for you: it's 0.75 inch diameter with a roll pin pressed into it. No splines. Standard Kelch wheel more than likely.

 

Being it's been there since 1985, it will be brown welded pretty hard. Getting the roll pin out is the easy part. Getting the wheel off without destroying it is the hard part. Soak it alot, and take your time.

Edited July 10, 2023 by kpinnc

[hotajax 223]

Sounds like a long job for Aero Kroil.  Thanks gents.

[tunahead72 2,412]

@JCM  Excellent photos, thank you! 

 

[hotajax 223]

On 7/10/2023 at 5:48 PM, kpinnc said:

 

I can simplify that for you: it's 0.75 inch diameter with a roll pin pressed into it. No splines. Standard Kelch wheel more than likely.

 

Being it's been there since 1985, it will be brown welded pretty hard. Getting the roll pin out is the easy part. Getting the wheel off without destroying it is the hard part. Soak it alot, and take your time.

What is a Kelch wheel?  Is that a brand or style?  Thanks.

[kpinnc 12,013]

1 hour ago, hotajax said:

What is a Kelch wheel?  Is that a brand or style?  Thanks.

 

Just a brand. They made oodles of tractor steering wheels. 

 

The one below isn't WH, but typical.

 

 

[oliver2-44 9,743]

I learned from @Achto, skip all the setup and banging and get a carbide glass bit (set of 5 small sizes at HD). He taught me to drill them out in 2 drill bit size steps.  Use lots of light oil or penetrant to cool bit as you drill with light firm pressure.