Dump truck build

[19richie66 17,500]

25 minutes ago, JPWH said:

So your upping the game with a tandem axle? Go for it I'll follow along.

No……no tandem. Just stretching it and moving the axle back. Then I could run a driveshaft instead of chain. 

[Pullstart 62,834]

2 hours ago, 19richie66 said:

No……no tandem. Just stretching it and moving the axle back. Then I could run a driveshaft instead of chain. 

I believe in you Ribbie!

[JPWH 6,033]

Parts are starting to arrive. I have received all the wheels and rear hubs.

I picked up the frame rails. 2x2x3/8.

I have the axle. 1 1/2 x 3 x 1/4.

Ross steering and some other axle parts are on the way.

[19richie66 17,500]

Gonna be a stout frame & front axle with that steel. Interested to see where this all goes. 

Edited July 8, 2023 by 19richie66

[JPWH 6,033]

2 hours ago, 19richie66 said:

Gonna be a stout frame & front axle with that steel. Interested to see where this all goes. 

When I picked up the angle iron my steel guy asked me what in the world are you building? I explained it to him and he thinks it may be heavy enough.

[JPWH 6,033]

I need to change the wheel backset. I know it has been done, but I have not tried it. How are the centers welded to the wheel?

[wallfish 16,994]

Pretty sure they're spot welded. Look for the circles 2-3 each point and drill out the spot welds.

Never done them either but I'm pretty sure @19richie66 has

[JPWH 6,033]

Thanks John. I'll look into that. If it works I'll have to figure a way to reduce the stress on the wheel and hubs after I move the centers.

 

[19richie66 17,500]

2 hours ago, wallfish said:

Pretty sure they're spot welded. Look for the circles 2-3 each point and drill out the spot welds.

Never done them either but I'm pretty sure @19richie66 has

Those wheels you got from me with the 24-12x12 on them were moved. I flipped the centers and welded them back in. Some are spot welded and some are welded along the back of the center where it meets the rim.

[JPWH 6,033]

I figured a way to have duallys without changing backset and attaching both wheels to axle using a hub on each wheel.

 

[Handy Don 12,208]

6 minutes ago, JPWH said:

I figured a way to have duallys without changing backset and attaching both wheels to axle using a hub on each wheel.

   

How are you extending the axle? 

[JPWH 6,033]

31 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

How are you extending the axle? 

No extensions needed. There are no side frame panels in the way.

I got the front axle cut out today.

 

I did a little visual mock up to show where this is headed. The frame rails have not been cut yet. I have a lot to build before I'm ready to do that.

 

[wallfish 16,994]

2 hours ago, JPWH said:

No extensions needed. There are no side frame panels in the way.

That's the way I read it too. Like the axle was to pass through 2 hubs for each of the duallys to connect to the axle? Are you just using 2 hubs to connect the dually wheels together?

[JPWH 6,033]

I'm mounting the wheels to the hubs then I will set the hubs to the axle independantly. I will probably cut a longer keyway.

Edited July 9, 2023 by JPWH

[Handy Don 12,208]

1 minute ago, JPWH said:

I'm mounting the wheels to the hubs then I will set the hubs to the axle independantly.

I get that, but the axle in a Unidrive only sticks out far enough to reach through one hub. How does your axle get longer?

[JPWH 6,033]

This differential has longer axles than any other I have had before. I got it from @19richie66. Maybe he can tell us what it is out of.

[19richie66 17,500]

4 minutes ago, JPWH said:

This differential has longer axles than any other I have had before. I got it from @19richie66. Maybe he can tell us what it is out of.

I can’t remember yesterday much less what it came out of . Sorry Jay. 

[wallfish 16,994]

10 minutes ago, 19richie66 said:

I can’t remember yesterday much less what it came out of . Sorry Jay.

That's basically my line too. Can't remember what I had for lunch so...

If the axle is long enough to fit through 2 hubs on each side that's some long axles from something.

[ebinmaine 67,401]

Likely you have axles from a GT14.  

They're several inches longer than a standard WH axle. 

[19richie66 17,500]

11 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Likely you have axles from a GT14.  

They're several inches longer than a standard WH axle. 

I do remember having a parts tractor that had long axles and solid rear wheels. Can’t remember much more than that. It wasn’t a GT14 because it was a manual transmission.  If someone was in it before I got it, I haven’t a clue. I got it out of a tractor / parts pile helping a friend clean up a collector’s place after he passed. 

Edited July 9, 2023 by 19richie66

[JPWH 6,033]

11 hours ago, Handy Don said:

I get that, but the axle in a Unidrive only sticks out far enough to reach through one hub. How does your axle get longer?

These axles stick out 6 1/2".

[ebinmaine 67,401]

There's a decent but not quite complete list here:

 

 

 

 

[wallfish 16,994]

Think I'm gonna go with wide 24 12 12  tires that Richie made instead of going with the six 6-12s all around like that show truck pic. I really like that look for a truck as it really makes it look like a truck but just going to use what's here already. Probably smaller tires on the front too. But of coarse everything changes as it progresses too so.

Plan is to try and use the PTO attachment clutch and pulleys as the actual drive clutch which is another hair brained idea that's been on the to do (try it out) list for a long time.

[ebinmaine 67,401]

5 minutes ago, wallfish said:

Plan is to try and use the PTO attachment clutch and pulleys as the actual drive clutch which is another hair brained idea that's been on the to do (try it out) list for a long time.

Interesting thought.  

Why the PTO instead of the normal foot clutch?

Because of relocating the engine vs transmission?

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,401]

Jay and/or John, how will you guys be keeping the belt system in play?

Extra guard/guides wrapped  around the pulleys?