JPWH 6,033 #201 Posted August 7 48 minutes ago, 953 nut said: Like the front axle placement. However, Won't those two short step ladders look a bit out of place. Wheels would work much better! Have you not heard of one step at a time? Simple minds like mine need simple steps. 20 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: I was wondering about steering without front wheels too. Coming soon,I haven't got to that step yet. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,726 #202 Posted August 7 26 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: I was wondering about steering See those rims on the step ladders. Those are a creative new “butt” steering design. You can even steer from either side 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,401 #203 Posted August 7 9 minutes ago, JPWH said: Have you not heard of one step at a time? Simple minds like mine need simple steps. You're WAAAAAYY ahead of me on 99% of projects... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,118 #204 Posted August 7 2 hours ago, JPWH said: I think I have found the final design. Now to start building it. I decided not to cut up any more metal mocking it up and just improvise, looks crude but it works. Final wheel base is about 66". Just using what we have to stack up the parts to get a build started. Lookin good Jay. Now the fun begins. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,994 #205 Posted August 7 8 hours ago, JPWH said: I think I have found the final design. Now to start building it. I decided not to cut up any more metal mocking it up and just improvise, looks crude but it works. Final wheel base is about 66". Nice! Looking good Jay. Front axle under the engine will allow the tires to go around it so it's just a matter of getting the belt or drive line past a fully turned tire, but think your axle was made pretty wide to leave enough room. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPWH 6,033 #206 Posted August 8 19 hours ago, wallfish said: Front axle under the engine will allow the tires to go around it so it's just a matter of getting the belt or drive line past a fully turned tire I got that idea from you early on. Now you gotta bring up drive belt clearance! I already have that figured out. I think. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,994 #207 Posted August 8 9 minutes ago, JPWH said: Now you gotta bring up drive belt clearance! Make it go super fast. Oval track racing is left turn only! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPWH 6,033 #208 Posted August 10 A little progress actually building. I cut some flat bar and tacked them in to keep the frame square, then I cut out the axle support brackets and drilled them with the largest bit I had. I had to hand ream to correct size. Tacked in the brackets to check the fit of the axle. 3 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19richie66 17,500 #209 Posted August 10 Looking good. Probably already on it but figured I would mention it…… might want to add as many “ladder” brackets as possible to keep frame flex as a minimum. When I started the rat rod I never finished, the engine weight made it lean a little to the side. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPWH 6,033 #210 Posted August 10 Thanks Richie. When I figure out how I want to install the jack shafts I'm going to box in the center portion of the frame between the front and rear axle. That will give me 2x2x3/8 fràme rails. 5hen I will put bracing rail to rail with 1/4 plate. I leveled the frame, built the dash ànd worked on the axle hubs before the heat got unbearable for me. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPWH 6,033 #211 Posted August 11 This is why I want to build a dump truck. (and it will be cool.) We have 3 of these holly bushes. This is from one bush. 4 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,401 #212 Posted August 11 It's awesome that you have a legit practical usage for it. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elcamino/wheelhorse 9,297 #213 Posted August 11 @JPWH A chain saw will take care of the problem for ever. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPWH 6,033 #214 Posted August 11 25 minutes ago, elcamino/wheelhorse said: @JPWH A chain saw will take care of the problem for ever. I'd rather deal with the holly bushes than the wrath of my wife. Much healthier. 5 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,207 #215 Posted August 11 2 hours ago, JPWH said: I'd rather deal with the holly bushes than the wrath of my wife. Much healthier. Our contest is over the several Euonymus around the property. To me they are fast-growing, invasive, messy, and ugly--a chainsaw would be appropriate. To her, green and shady. The compromise is that I can “trim” them back yearly taking ~3 hours of cutting, hauling, and chipper/shredding plus two Advil before bed. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,118 #216 Posted August 11 4 hours ago, JPWH said: I'd rather deal with the holly bushes than the wrath of my wife. Much healthier. Same here Jay. Mrs. K would miss the fresh green holly branches and red berries at Christmas. I just need to remember to wear heavy gloves when cleaning up the dead leaves. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPWH 6,033 #217 Posted August 11 I got the motor mounting plate and the grill mounting plate cut and drilled. Also got the transmission set to proper height so I can build the mounting plate later. Also made up a template for a pattern to cut out some 1/4" plate for lateral braces for the frame. Also figured out whe the drive pulley jack shaft needs to be located. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keaton 433 #218 Posted August 12 making great progress always looking forward to seeing progress on this when I get on the forum 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 11,994 #219 Posted August 12 (edited) 14 hours ago, JPWH said: 14 hours ago, elcamino/wheelhorse said: JPWH A chain saw will take care of the problem for ever. I'd rather deal with the holly bushes than the wrath of my wife. Much healthier. Lest she decide that a chain saw will solve her problem forever! Wait a minute- I was thinking about MY wife... Edited August 12 by kpinnc 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,169 #220 Posted August 12 22 hours ago, ebinmaine said: It's awesome that you have a legit practical usage for it. If we were required to have a "legit practical usage" for our herd we would each have only one. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,401 #221 Posted August 12 18 minutes ago, 953 nut said: If we were required to have a "legit practical usage" for our herd we would each have only one. Nehh..... Ya gotta have a back up plan for your back up plan. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPWH 6,033 #222 Posted August 12 Mounted the motor and grill plate and a couple of tires to check actual clearances. Decided to check out the fender while I was at it. Fenders are going to need some work to look right. Real wheel clearances are going to be good. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPWH 6,033 #223 Posted August 14 The seat frame will not work as originally designed. @953 nut gifted me a set of nice flip up seats so I had to rethink the seat frame. I did a mock up to see what would work. Now to build the seat frame. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPWH 6,033 #224 Posted August 14 Finally got my dash panel with choke and throttle levers. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,169 #225 Posted August 14 5 hours ago, JPWH said: @953 nut gifted me a set of nice flip up seats so I had to rethink the seat frame. I did a mock up to see what would work. Now to build the seat frame. They look so much better on your dump trick than they did sitting on a shelf in my shop. 2 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites