Dreamcatcher 102 #1 Posted June 26, 2023 Thank you for any helpful advice on my question. I am putting new 4 ply tires on my 310. I have a parts tractor whose wheels I will use. I remvoed the tires from the rear wheels tonight and found that they had tubes as well as plenty of surfact rust on the inside of teh wheels. I wire brushed them well and will paint them soon. My plan was not to use tubes but now that i've seen them in the donor wheels I want to get your opinion on whether to go tubeless or install new tubes. Any pros and cons are appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,455 #2 Posted June 26, 2023 I use tubes in ALL tire swaps now. Main reason is because I no longer need to be concerned about setting the bead. It should be noted that we have NO plants trees shrubs with big nasty thorns that pop tires/tubes. We do have the occasional sharp rock but have learned to avoid and address them. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,316 #3 Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) I say - go with the tubes. If there are leaking defects on the rim bead - not a problem with a tube! Also IF you ever wish to fluid fill them for extra weight / traction, they are already there... Edited June 27, 2023 by ri702bill 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamcatcher 102 #4 Posted June 26, 2023 Is it possible that the tube rubs the inside of the wheel enought to remove the paint and encourage oxidation? Just wondering why the inside of the wheel was so rusty while the inside/outside faces of the wheel look pretty nice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineedanother 1,369 #5 Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dreamcatcher said: Is it possible that the tube rubs the inside of the wheel enought to remove the paint and encourage oxidation? Just wondering why the inside of the wheel was so rusty while the inside/outside faces of the wheel look pretty nice. Those tubes are not original equipment so it's really hard to say when or how the rim rusted. Compressed air can contain a fair amount of water so prior to the tubes there might have been a bit in there. Edited June 26, 2023 by ineedanother 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,316 #6 Posted June 27, 2023 There ARE old time rim protectors ( think of the strip on the rim where the spoke nuts were on a bicycle...) A proper fitting, proper sized, and properly inflated tube should not wiggle enough to abrade the paint... AND, I use a generous amount of Baby Powder to install a tube - lets it wiggle into position without folds or tears at 5 PSI... NOTE - if buying "new" offshore vendor tubes - DO take the time to inflate them to 5 PSI about 3 days ahead and check them before installation. Do not be too surprized that you may have to return at least one.. BT, DT.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,873 #7 Posted June 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Dreamcatcher said: inside of the wheel enought to remove the paint and encourage oxidation I like to put a coat of POR15 on the inside of rims that are getting tubed. especially if they are going to be loaded. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,570 #8 Posted June 27, 2023 10 hours ago, Dreamcatcher said: Just wondering why the inside of the wheel was so rusty while the inside/outside faces of the wheel look pretty nice. The factory worries about how the out side of the rim will look. The customer will rarely ever see the inside of the rim. The outside of the rim is always painted nice with ample thickness of paint. The inside of the rim barely gets much more than over spray. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamcatcher 102 #9 Posted June 27, 2023 Thanks everyone. I'm going to prime/paint the inside, do some touch up on the outside and go on vacation. When I get back tubes and the new meats will be installed. Bon voyage! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,455 #10 Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Dreamcatcher said: Thanks everyone. I'm going to prime/paint the inside, do some touch up on the outside and go on vacation. When I get back tubes and the new meats will be installed. Bon voyage! Don't forget that all us children like pictures! 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
