36" RD..fit a 310-8?

[aemsee 93]

just picked this up. Looks like it should work on my 310-8. 

[daveoman1966 3,807]

YES

 

[ri702bill 8,968]

Agreed - clean it up, grease the spindles, and give it a "whirl" !!

Check the ball bearings on the mule drive too.

[Rick3478 434]

Yeah, the 310 will have more power than the deck needs under almost any circumstance, but some users do this if they need to fit through a tight gate, between trees, etc.  I've even seen them on C-160's and 416's.

[CCW 1,333]

I currently use a 36" RD deck on my 312-8.

 

[aemsee 93]

9 hours ago, Rick3478 said:

Yeah, the 310 will have more power than the deck needs under almost any circumstance, but some users do this if they need to fit through a tight gate, between trees, etc.  I've even seen them on C-160's and 416's.

yup. I have a zero turn for my mowing, but want this for doing my front yards and around my shrubs. The smaller deck makes for a nice looking cut. Plus I now have a mower to go along with my wheel horse tiller, snow blower and dump trailer

[tgranthamfd 29]

Yup, I have one on my C145 right now, got a skinny gate to get through, but it has no problem with way overgrown grass either!! 

[aemsee 93]

I did get it greased and mounted up just to try it out. Attacked some two week old grass behind the barn. Didn't miss a beat even with dull rusty blades, lol. Now to find a replacement double pulley, front roller and a set of wheels for it.

[squonk 42,526]

32 minutes ago, aemsee said:

I did get it greased and mounted up just to try it out. Attacked some two week old grass behind the barn. Didn't miss a beat even with dull rusty blades, lol. Now to find a replacement double pulley, front roller and a set of wheels for it.

I Probably have a new roller and I know I have deck wheels here at my house. I got them at the show last year for spares and can just get more in a couple of weeks. It will save you shipping

[Tonytoro416 1,096]

I currently am running a 36” on my 416H.  I mow about a mile of side ditch at house and across the road.  Perfect deck width for the steeper parts and the 416 sticks the the ground like a champion.  Couldn’t ask for a better setup 

[aemsee 93]

4 minutes ago, squonk said:

I Probably have a new roller and I know I have deck wheels here at my house. I got them at the show last year for spares and can just get more in a couple of weeks. It will save you shipping

Thanks! Let me know when is a good time to stop by. I am usually home from work by 6.

[Sparky-(Admin) 22,058]

I run a 36RD and move it from my B-80 to my C-105.  It gives a much nicer cut and distributes clippings better than either of my 42RD decks! 

[squonk 42,526]

32 minutes ago, aemsee said:

Thanks! Let me know when is a good time to stop by. I am usually home from work by 6.

Anytime after 7 would be fine.

[Dreamcatcher 102]

Would the mule drive belt for the 36" RD and 42" RD decks be the same for a 310-8?

 

If either of these were mounted on a 417 A, would the mule drive belt from a 48" deck work or would it be different?

Edited June 5, 2023 by Dreamcatcher

[peter lena 9,088]

@Dreamcatcher  very good opportunity time to do a bearing clean out and re grease  on those muel drive bearings . use lucas marine grease , high  550+ degree temp rating , high stress loading , bearings are usually 6203 , 3/4" RSC3, with wide rubber side shields , use a pocket scale or small putty knife , to gently pry off shields ,they  remove easily . wipe out original grease , and flush with carb cleaner , repack with  marine grease to same ammount , put seals back in place , also lubricate related connection points , grease the adjuster knob threaded rod . this is a simple upgrade , makes a difference , whyining  noisy bearings , is telling you of lubrication failure ,  you can make that go away , pete

[squonk 42,526]

14 hours ago, aemsee said:

Thanks! Let me know when is a good time to stop by. I am usually home from work by 6.

I checked my inventory and I used my new rollers but I have some good used ones. You can have it if you buy a couple of wheels. Or if you want to wait I can get you a new roller at the show.

[Dreamcatcher 102]

24 minutes ago, peter lena said:

@Dreamcatcher  very good opportunity time to do a bearing clean out and re grease  on those muel drive bearings . use lucas marine grease , high  550+ degree temp rating , high stress loading , bearings are usually 6203 , 3/4" RSC3, with wide rubber side shields , use a pocket scale or small putty knife , to gently pry off shields ,they  remove easily . wipe out original grease , and flush with carb cleaner , repack with  marine grease to same ammount , put seals back in place , also lubricate related connection points , grease the adjuster knob threaded rod . this is a simple upgrade , makes a difference , whyining  noisy bearings , is telling you of lubrication failure ,  you can make that go away , pete

I've been trying to figure out a good technique to loosen the nut so I can remove those pulleys and grease the bearings.  Can you or anyone suggest a technique?  it is a little awkword.  Also does anyone have guidance on the belt numbers I asked about previously?

[peter lena 9,088]

@Dreamcatcher  that outer belt pulley nut should be losened in place , think its a 1 1/16  box end wrench , that would give you the leverage advantage to loosen that nut . as you take that apart , lay it out on the ground , so you can put it back  EXACTLY AS IT CAME OFF , ESPECIALLY , THE BEARING SPACERS , lubricate as you go . ther is no grease fittings in there . done this a number of times , go slow , remove bearing rubber shields , follow instructions above ,  don,t have a belt #  someone will give a reference . might even have to match one up at  T/S belt rack . pete

[Dreamcatcher 102]

1 hour ago, peter lena said:

@Dreamcatcher  that outer belt pulley nut should be losened in place , think its a 1 1/16  box end wrench , that would give you the leverage advantage to loosen that nut . as you take that apart , lay it out on the ground , so you can put it back  EXACTLY AS IT CAME OFF , ESPECIALLY , THE BEARING SPACERS , lubricate as you go . ther is no grease fittings in there . done this a number of times , go slow , remove bearing rubber shields , follow instructions above ,  don,t have a belt #  someone will give a reference . might even have to match one up at  T/S belt rack . pete

One light rap of the impact wrench did the job to remove the nut.  Sprayed my personal favorite penetratining oil, Kroil, and the first pulley slid right off.  Spraked the vbelt pulley, let it sit for a few minutes.  A dozed gentle taps fro a dead blow hammer and it too slidd off.  I will do some wire brushing and try to grease them tonight.

[peter lena 9,088]

@Dreamcatcher  love it ! KROIL  is killer lubrication , especially as a soaking / penetrating  lubricant . when you get to the bearings , verry thin edge gets those rubber seals off , done this many times , they are good bearings , with a generic lubricant in there , the heat and angulardrive  stress , is what kills them , chances are  even the deck  spindle bearing are the same thing . thats what i have on my 3 horses . since going to hi temp lucas grease , no noise or failures .  extra heavy duty , if you can get it , marine grease , and lucas red , in choice order . you can also , pull off the pto drive cone , after removing the related coaster brake bracket , wipe it out , and lightly coat the inner needle bearing with , E H D OR MARINE GREASE . minimal grease , or it slings to clutch face .outer sealed bearing can be easily replaced , if needed , auto parts . this part of my baseline service , pete

[Dreamcatcher 102]

22 minutes ago, peter lena said:

@Dreamcatcher  love it ! KROIL  is killer lubrication , especially as a soaking / penetrating  lubricant . when you get to the bearings , verry thin edge gets those rubber seals off , done this many times , they are good bearings , with a generic lubricant in there , the heat and angulardrive  stress , is what kills them , chances are  even the deck  spindle bearing are the same thing . thats what i have on my 3 horses . since going to hi temp lucas grease , no noise or failures .  extra heavy duty , if you can get it , marine grease , and lucas red , in choice order . you can also , pull off the pto drive cone , after removing the related coaster brake bracket , wipe it out , and lightly coat the inner needle bearing with , E H D OR MARINE GREASE . minimal grease , or it slings to clutch face .outer sealed bearing can be easily replaced , if needed , auto parts . this part of my baseline service , pete

 

I have the Lucas grease.  Can the covers be removed carefully with a pick? I have an assortment of mini picks. I will grease the bearings, clean the shaft, apply anti seize, and reassemble. At some point I will do the same with the PTO.

[peter lena 9,088]

@Dreamcatcher what you want is a very thin  flat edge so you do not tear the rubber , small putty knife  , similar , once you do one , you will have the delicate touch to do the rest , small pocket screwdriver . pete  

[Dreamcatcher 102]

4 hours ago, peter lena said:

@Dreamcatcher what you want is a very thin  flat edge so you do not tear the rubber , small putty knife  , similar , once you do one , you will have the delicate touch to do the rest , small pocket screwdriver . pete  

The repacking of the bearings is done.  As suggested, they were indeed empty/void of grease.  They are very smooth now.

 

Can someone assit with which mule dirve belt should be used for a 36" rear discharge deck on a 417-A?  Thank you.

[Dreamcatcher 102]

On 6/4/2023 at 6:51 PM, Tonytoro416 said:

I currently am running a 36” on my 416H.  I mow about a mile of side ditch at house and across the road.  Perfect deck width for the steeper parts and the 416 sticks the the ground like a champion.  Couldn’t ask for a better setup 

@Tonytoro416 can you give me the part number for the mule drive belt that you are using?  It must be similar for my 417 A.

[Tonytoro416 1,096]

I’m not finding any numbers