Weights on wheels.. how many have you got? And a question

[AHS 1,440]

Ive got one weight on one wheel, held on by two carriage bolts. Now, i want to do two weights… the carriage bolt thru the wheel, thru the first weight and onto the second weight then washer and nut? What have you got, (if you have them) pictures, please?

[ebinmaine 67,342]

If I was going to do that I would find a carriage Bolt long enough to go all the way through both of them and run the nut for the first set right up to them just as they are now.

 

 

One thing to keep in mind is, make sure you understand just how wiiiiiiide that is when you're driving it around.

Don't ask me how I know that..... 

[ri702bill 8,296]

Be careful what you wish for. One plastic weight is somewhat of an overhung load - 2 stacked together is an excessive overhung load. can lead to axle bearing and hub problems.

Two possible "better" solutions -

Tube the tires and add winter windshield washer fluid - a 23x8.50x12 tire holds about 6 gallons - about 40 pounds INLINE with the rim.

Use a thinner cast iron wheel weight on the inside of the rim and your plastic weight on the outside - adds about 30 pounds and helps negate the overhang of the plastic weight.

Or, be a hero and do ALL THREE - fluid, inner weight, outer weight  - The Traction Tri-fecta !!

 

My winter setup on the C81 - washer fluid filled tires, 75 pound cast wheel weight with another 20 pound weight bolted inside - 95 pounds total. A bear to load alone - made this adapter for the floorjack to help.

Bill

 

 

Edited April 23, 2023 by ri702bill

[JCM 9,130]

@ri702bill   Looks like a Sears 2 ton floor jack from the late 70's. Still use mine on a regular basis.

[squonk 41,041]

28 minutes ago, JCM said:

@ri702bill   Looks like a Sears 2 ton floor jack from the late 70's. Still use mine on a regular basis.

I still have my Craftsman jack bought around '76. Still have yet to add fluid! 

 

[Pullstart 62,814]

1 hour ago, ri702bill said:

One plastic wieght is somewhat of an overhung load - 2 stacked together is an excessive overhung load. can lead to axle bearing and hub problems.

Now I’m no engineer, but wouldn’t overhung load on the wheel and tire be a lever to reduce the weight on the bearings somewhat, or would that just put funky stresses on the axles?

[ebinmaine 67,342]

2 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

Now I’m no engineer, but wouldn’t overhung load on the wheel and tire be a lever to reduce the weight on the bearings somewhat, or would that just

 

put funky stresses on the axles?

 

Any load overhung to the outside of the wheel will push down while lifting up at the inside to an equal amount. 

The load center of the tire/wheel becomes a pivot or fulcrum.  

 

These transmissions are RUGGED so I can't say how much it would take to become a problem.   

 

[ri702bill 8,296]

It is!! Bought it in 1981 and it has the rebuildable pump (did that a few years back), unlike my later 3 ton Sears....

[ri702bill 8,296]

Gents - my point is that weight centered in or on the tire and rim just adds weight and does not constitute an overhung condition (unlike a hang over condition - that is totally different)...

[squonk 41,041]

WH transmissions are tough, but if you're going to add a lot of extra weight and do serious work, Replace those 50ish year old inner and outer axle bearings

[ri702bill 8,296]

3 minutes ago, squonk said:

WH transmissions are tough, but if you're going to add a lot of extra weight and do serious work, Replace those 50ish year old inner and outer axle bearings

And the 4 seals, along with a new case gasket & boot...........

[Ed Kennell 38,054]

1 hour ago, Pullstart said:

, or would that just put funky stresses on the axles?

            Stress or strain?

[SylvanLakeWH 25,503]

I didn't know @Pullstart had a trail cam in his weight room also...!!! 

[ri702bill 8,296]

7 hours ago, AHS said:

What have you got, (if you have them) pictures, please?

Soooooo,,,,,???

[AHS 1,440]

9 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

Any load overhung to the outside of the wheel will push down while lifting up at the inside to an equal amount. 

The load center of the tire/wheel becomes a pivot or fulcrum.  

 

These transmissions are RUGGED so I can't say how much it would take to become a problem.   

 

I have a cast iron one too, its about #40-50? I’d put it inside the wheel. The hydro transmission is on my C175. Their supposed to be a tough transmission.