Wheel Horse Steering - Cambered Axle

[rmaynard 15,428]

What year did Wheel Horse go to cambered axle steering, and can a 701 be retrofitted with it?

[WHX?? 48,784]

I don't see why not Bob, why tho? 

[wallfish 16,985]

63 started with the newer type axles. They are thicker at the pin and wider wheel track. Anything can be retrofitted with a sparkling magic wand (welder) 

701/702s don't have a very tight steering radius. If that's the reason, personally I would look into extending the steering arm section where the tie rods connect under the tractor. Tie rods connected further from the shaft will produce a longer throw and pull which will increase the angle of the wheels. (Just can't remember if they hit the stops already or not.) Plus you can probably just bolt on so it can easily be swapped back to factory.

I haven't had one of those tractors for a while to know for sure but here's the idea 

 

[WHX?? 48,784]

Holy crap 'Fish ... you just threw my purist  affliction out the window....

Edited April 6, 2023 by WHX??

[wallfish 16,985]

49 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Holy crap 'Fish ... you just threw my purist  affection  right out the window....

I do have an affection for the early round hoods so major modifications should be kept to a minimum IMO

Cut and weld on everything else.

(And just for the record, I've never even parted out a decent roller no matter what the year. I'll build those back and spend more money on parts to do it then the whole tractor is worth.

The stuff for the custom builds is mostly spare or damaged parts hanging around that was picked up over the years. Shopping at the big show is fun! Problem is the krap hangs around for years before finding it's way on to something. )

[Pullstart 62,796]

I just swapped a ‘64 frame and front axle into my 502 and called it good.  

[WHX?? 48,784]

1 hour ago, wallfish said:

do have an affection for the early round hoods so major modifications should be kept to a minimum IMO

[ri702bill 8,288]

Go with a pair of NEW adjustable tie rods - no slop or lost motion, and takes the "exactness" out of what @wallfish mentioned - and allows getting a good wheel alignment. 3X winner......

 

[rmaynard 15,428]

11 hours ago, WHX?? said:

I don't see why not Bob, why tho? 

Turning radius. I am pretty much a purist when it comes to my horses, but my 14 year old grandson who is helping with this one asked if there was any way to make it steer better.

Edited April 6, 2023 by rmaynard

[Pullstart 62,796]

12 minutes ago, rmaynard said:

Turning radius. I am pretty much a purist when it comes to my horses, but my 14 year old grandson who is helping with this one asked if there was any way to make it steer better.

Frame swap pictures… it was bolt on, shy of trimming the ‘64 steering tower welds off the frame.  
 

 

[rmaynard 15,428]

So I guess that mean I just can't pop in an 857 axle. 

[ri702bill 8,288]

Correct - the location and size of the pivot pin are different.....

[Pullstart 62,796]

2 hours ago, rmaynard said:

So I guess that mean I just can't pop in an 857 axle. 

do you have an 857 frame to compare to and possibly swap?  I imagine you’d need to pop the hinge bar off the front, and maybe drill a hole in the front of the frame for the hood mount.