ericforster 69 #1 Posted March 11, 2023 I talked to a guy today that has a couple nice machine he may want to sell. I apologize that I dont have pictures. One in particular caught my eye. There was this tiny beautiful machine in the back. I asked him and he said he may sell it. He told me it was a J70. I couldnt find that model. What I found was that it is identical to the RJ57. He removed the original clinton motor and replaced it with a briggs. He said that he still had the original. The tractor looks to be in good shape. What would something like this be worth? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blasterdad 2,692 #2 Posted March 11, 2023 According to the model list, there's no such thing as a J70 or RJ57... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blasterdad 2,692 #3 Posted March 11, 2023 Model Year Description Type Engine Model HP Drive Model RJ-25 1955 Lawn & Garden Tractor Ride Away Jr. Variable Briggs N/A 2.5 Pond N/A RJ-35 1955 Lawn & Garden Tractor Ride Away Jr. Variable Kohler K-90 3.5 Pond N/A RJ-35 1955 Lawn & Garden Tractor Ride Away Jr. Variable Clinton B-1200 3.6 Pond N/A RJ-25 1956 Lawn & Garden Tractor Ride Away Jr. Variable Briggs N/A 2.5 Pond N/A RJ-35 1956 Lawn & Garden Tractor Ride Away Jr. Variable Kohler K-90 3.5 Pond N/A RJ-35 1956 Lawn & Garden Tractor Ride Away Jr. Variable Clinton B-1200 3.6 Pond N/A RJ-35 1957 Lawn & Garden Tractor Ride Away Jr. Variable Kohler K-90 3.5 Pond N/A RJ-35 1957 Lawn & Garden Tractor Ride Away Jr. Variable Clinton B-1200 3.6 Pond N/A RJ-58 1958 Lawn & Garden Tractor Ride Away Jr. 4-Speed Kohler K-90 3.5 Wheel Horse 5003 RJ-58 1958 Lawn & Garden Tractor Ride Away Jr. 4-Speed Clinton B-1290 3.6 Wheel Horse 5003 RJ-59 1959 Lawn & Garden Tractor Ride Away Jr. 4-Speed Kohler K-90 3.5 Wheel Horse 5003 RJ-59 1959 Lawn & Garden Tractor Ride Away Jr. 4-Speed Clinton B-1290 3.6 Wheel Horse 5003 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clueless 2,987 #4 Posted March 11, 2023 Since the model numbers the guy gave you don't match any wheel horse and you don't have any pictures to show us, not sure how any of use could give you a value. Get some pictures then go from there. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,207 #5 Posted March 12, 2023 It could be a 1957 RJ-35, value will depend on condition and how much you want it. The one in the foreground is a 1957 RJ-35 with a 1956 belt guard, and belongs to @turnnleft. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,994 #6 Posted March 12, 2023 To the untrained eye that era little tractors may all appear to look the same at first. But I've easily tricked my wife by saying they were the same exact tractor that was out in the backyard when in reality it's a new arrival. Completely different tractor and different model and I've done this multiple times. She's been looking at them since 2008 too! I just spray enough BS on her so she doesn't walk around and count them! LoL. Without pics it could be anything from a holy grail RJ-25, all the way up to a 61 suburban. Before 1958 they are considered Ponds. Once the RJ-58 hit the market then Wheel Horse. I assume you may be comparing it to a 1957 RJ-35 which would definitely be a really nice find. There's quite a swing in value. $100-$300 for a butchered suburban up to $1200 + for a "normal condition" Pond then above that for perfect/complete one or an ORIGINAL RJ-25. Then, some early Ponds had a cable steer system too which can change the value as well. Not many of those around. Tricking the wife so not to hear complaining about more tractors ---- that's PRICELESS so get as many as possible! LoL Detailed pics from different angles will reveal what it is and the condition of it. It's all in the details to help determine a ball park value 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,017 #7 Posted March 12, 2023 19 hours ago, wallfish said: I've easily tricked my wife by saying they were the same exact tractor that was out in the backyard when in reality it's a new arrival. Completely different tractor and different model and I've done this multiple times. She's been looking at them since 2008 too! I'd be willing to bet you $20. ...That you're wrong. My wife would say that it's not worth an argument, and she can save this for future use when she wants something! 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,994 #8 Posted March 12, 2023 27 minutes ago, kpinnc said: I'd be willing to bet you $20. ...That you're wrong. My wife would say that it's not worth an argument, and she can save this for future use when she wants something! You're on! My wife would never pass up an opportunity to let me have it over tractors. There's NO WAY she's going to concede something that easy! (She's not so difficult about it any more since there isn't 20 + around the property anymore. She even believes one of them is hers! LoL) 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,017 #9 Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, wallfish said: My wife would never pass up an opportunity to let me have it over tractors. There's NO WAY she's going to concede something that easy! My wife went with me to the PA show back in 2007. I was floored and amazed. She quietly endured the heat, dust, and aromas of sweaty old farts and gasoline/ oil burning engines for two days ... Then she quietly planned a trip for us to the Gulf coast. There was NO options on my part. She said if I could go to Pennsylvania to look at a bunch of tractors, then I could endure a vacation with her. I couldn't argue, protest, grumble, or even frown. Doing so awakened the BEAST! She said if I didn't like it, I could go snuggle up with a tractor in the barn. Yes dear ... Thank you for saving me from a miserable week of grease, sweat, blood, and red paint. Edited March 13, 2023 by kpinnc 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,216 #10 Posted March 13, 2023 3 hours ago, kpinnc said: Then she quietly planned a trip for us to the Gulf coast. There was NO options on my part. She said if I could go to Pennsylvania to look at a bunch of tractors, then I could endure a vacation with her. Sounds like an excellent person to me--and she has your number! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,081 #11 Posted March 13, 2023 21 hours ago, wallfish said: She even believes one of them is hers! LoL) didn't you sell that one to @ebinmaine ? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,843 #12 Posted March 13, 2023 4 hours ago, kpinnc said: sweaty old farts Opposed to a sweaty new fart? I don’t care to sniff for the difference 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,081 #13 Posted March 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Pullstart said: Opposed to a sweaty new fart? I don’t care to sniff for the difference Us tall guys don't have to worry about that stuff! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,017 #14 Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, squonk said: Us tall guys don't have to worry about that stuff! Unless you're squatted down working on a tractor... By "sweaty old farts", I actually was just referring to all us older fellas rooting around like a bunch of retirees on Jell-o day at the home... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,081 #15 Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, kpinnc said: Unless you're squatted down working on a tractor... By "sweaty old farts", I actually was just referring to all us older fellas rooting around like a bunch of retirees on Jell-o day at the home... If your squatting down you're usually the defender and not the defendee! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,743 #16 Posted March 14, 2023 Where’s @SylvanLakeWH when we need him O- my nose 😂🤣🥲 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,017 #17 Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Handy Don said: Sounds like an excellent person to me--and she has your number! She owns my number Don. I wouldn't have it any other way! She's kept me from getting myself into trouble more times than I can remember. Edited March 14, 2023 by kpinnc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,550 #18 Posted March 14, 2023 5 hours ago, oliver2-44 said: Where’s @SylvanLakeWH when we need him O- my nose 😂🤣🥲 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,843 #19 Posted March 14, 2023 There he is… I’ve been waiting to make him cringe! @ericforster I apologize for sending these sweaty old farts down the rabbit hole on your thread. Hopefully you enjoy our humor and company. Just don’t smell us I guess! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,443 #20 Posted March 14, 2023 Man, it doesn't take much for you guys to run the train off the tracks. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ericforster 69 #21 Posted March 14, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 6:10 PM, 953 nut said: It could be a 1957 RJ-35, value will depend on condition and how much you want it. The one in the foreground is a 1957 RJ-35 with a 1956 belt guard, and belongs to @turnnleft. That resembles it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ericforster 69 #22 Posted March 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Pullstart said: There he is… I’ve been waiting to make him cringe! @ericforster I apologize for sending these sweaty old farts down the rabbit hole on your thread. Hopefully you enjoy our humor and company. Just don’t smell us I guess! I dont offend easy. I enjoy a good ribbing, and as long as I dont need to break out the febreeze for the sweaty old sharts, all is well. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,843 #23 Posted March 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, ericforster said: That resembles it. I love my RJ35, you could say those and the RJ25 were the original automatic transmission tractor! They have a very-drive pulley system. The further forward you push the motion control, the bigger the CVT style drive pulley gets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ericforster 69 #24 Posted March 14, 2023 I need to go back over to the guys collection and see if I can find the ID tag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ericforster 69 #25 Posted March 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Pullstart said: There he is… I’ve been waiting to make him cringe! @ericforster I apologize for sending these sweaty old farts down the rabbit hole on your thread. Hopefully you enjoy our humor and company. Just don’t smell us I guess! It is a restored RJ38 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites