White wheel horse ?

[ebinmaine 67,460]

20 minutes ago, ericforster said:

In person I see no trace of red under the white, but in the picture with the lift handle it looks as if there may be a speck of red on the lower handle. I looked over the machine pretty thorough when I was there and all I saw was white and patina.

 

Absolutely could have been "de-redded". 

My other half and I have done 4 full frame off nut n bolt restorations so far. 

Most of the paint is stripped when we do. 

 

It is possible someone wanted no red below the white to affect a certain effect.  

 

 

[ericforster 69]

So the question remains, why is it white? Is it a special edition? When did it recieve its white coat? The seller says it came from the factory that way.

[ericforster 69]

2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

Absolutely could have been "de-redded". 

My other half and I have done 4 full frame off nut n bolt restorations so far. 

Most of the paint is stripped when we do. 

 

It is possible someone wanted no red below the white to affect a certain effect.  

 

 

Was told it is original and unrestored. Could this be true?

[Mark siebenaler 88]

Sounds  like it's a one of a kind. 

[ebinmaine 67,460]

I'm fairly new the whole Wheelhorse world. Spring 2017 I think?

 

I haven't heard of any special edition being any colors...

 

Perhaps some of the long time collectors with older knowledge could jump in. 

 

@c-series don

@pfrederi

@squonk

@Pullstart

@kpinnc

@JCM

 

 

You folks have any thoughts here?

Or someone else who would?

 

[Brockport Bill 1,661]

per the tag --- Tractordata.com lists a 875 as 1965 model with Sundstrand "Wheel o Matic" hydro and K181s  engine, 8hp 305cc - they have a 2010 photo posted of red tractor -- Toro Viewer lists the model suffix as 3100077 and  the engine as K181s-30108A

Edited March 9, 2023 by Brockport Bill
more info from Toro Viewer

[ericforster 69]

1 minute ago, Brockport Bill said:

per the tag --- Tractordata.com lists a 875 as 1965 model with Sundstrand "Wheel o Matic" hydro and K181s engine, 8hp 305cc - they have a 2010 photo posted of red tractor

I saw that but I also believe that if this is truly factory white, it may be a very rare machine. Would the IDtag that I posted have any info to help figure this out?

[CasualObserver 3,408]

1 hour ago, ericforster said:

Found the id tag

 

I'd say this picture tells you all you need to know about whether the paint is original.  White overspray on the ID tag, which is aluminum so it won't rust. Notice if you look close, the black print of the ID is visible in the top left corner.

I'd also bet if you drill those rivets and pull off the tag you'll find a bright red rectangle.

[kpinnc 12,017]

3 minutes ago, CasualObserver said:

I'd also bet if you drill those rivets and pull off the tag you'll find a bright red rectangle.

 

He's spot on! 

[Blasterdad 2,692]

 TO 

Nice find! 

875 1965 Lawn & Garden Tractor 875 Automatic Kohler K181S-30108A 8 Sundstrand 3100077

[ericforster 69]

10 minutes ago, CasualObserver said:

 

I'd say this picture tells you all you need to know about whether the paint is original.  White overspray on the ID tag, which is aluminum so it won't rust. Notice if you look close, the black print of the ID is visible in the top left corner.

I'd also bet if you drill those rivets and pull off the tag you'll find a bright red rectangle.

Is that overspray? It looked to me like it was an aged tag as its not just one area but multiple areas throughout. I mean it is 58 years old. Its nothing special then, other than it is a 58 year old wheelhorse.

[pacer 3,169]

I think there is a lot of room for doubt, theres a lot of knowledge here and so far no one has heard of the white as factory.

 

Also, as @ebinmaine points out --- When I do a DEEP resto I sandblast all parts and there is - for all practical purposes - little to no red left.

 

And .... I also remove/replace the id plate!

Edited March 9, 2023 by pacer

[CasualObserver 3,408]

3 minutes ago, ericforster said:

Is that overspray?

 

Yes, that's why there is white paint on the right rivet and a little on the bottom of the left.  If it were factory, it would have been painted before the tag was installed. Rivets would be clean. Original tractors were painted before the engines were installed, which came red from Kohler. Some models weren't identifiable until the engine and model tag or decals were installed based on what order came down the line.

[ericforster 69]

I see that now. I cant believe Imissed it.

[Pullstart 62,843]

 and I’m not opposed to an oddball paint job in the herd!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[953 nut 55,210]

50 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

could have been "de-redded"

Remind me never to play scrabble with EB.       

52 minutes ago, ericforster said:

So the question remains, why is it white? Is it a special edition? When did it recieve its white coat? The seller says it came from the factory that way.

If it makes you feel better thinking the previous owner KNOWS it came from the factory with white paint I'm not not going to burst your bubble. I wasn't there to confirm or deny what they said. You may want to have them give you a notarized certificate of authenticity that states it left the factory in white paint. That won't convince anyone but it would be a great conversation point.       

[ebinmaine 67,460]

8 minutes ago, ericforster said:

I see that now. I cant believe Imissed it.

No worries brother man.  

 

Without more information/knowledge you don't necessarily know exactly what you're looking for or at. 

 

That's why the good folks are here.  

 

 

 

26 minutes ago, ericforster said:

Is that overspray? It looked to me like it was an aged tag as its not just one area but multiple areas throughout. I mean it is 58 years old. Its nothing special then, other than IT IS A 58 YEAR OLD WHEELHORSE.

 

THAT in and of itself makes it a special piece.  

[ebinmaine 67,460]

3 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

 and I’m not opposed to an oddball OWNER  in the herd

Adjusted your text a bit.  

 

 

BTW @ericforster

 

Here in the Herd of EB & BBT we have several odd colors. 

Cinnamon Horse.  

BRIGHT red on 2 different tractors. 

And the awesome Military Tribute Tractor "Millie".  

 

 

[Blasterdad 2,692]

14 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

I mean it is 58 years old. Its nothing special then, other than IT IS A 58 YEAR OLD WHEELHORSE.

 

14 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

THAT in and of itself makes it a special piece.  

 

I must be "special" too!!!  

I was manufactured in 1965, & have white overspray on me from time to time, ( usually red though ). 

[Blasterdad 2,692]

This is the only white one I can remember seeing. I think it looks pretty cool...

 

[ebinmaine 67,460]

3 minutes ago, Blasterdad said:

This is the only white one I can remember seeing. I think it looks pretty cool...

 

Done by @Gregor

[ri702bill 8,316]

3 hours ago, ri702bill said:

Not a 62 - I agree with Eric that is a 1965, or maybe a little bit newer. Looks a LOT like the 1965 875 I bought recently.

 

CALLED IT !!!! And here is mine... scrape the paint on yours upper left where mine says "875" your tag may still be under the paint.....

 

 

[WHX?? 48,815]

875 is a candidate for a bucket lister ... first year for Wheelamatic. Personally I would go 150 on it maybe a tad more if the parts are Kohler. No way would I resto it ... way too much character goin on ther.

2 hours ago, kpinnc said:

Odd how the headlight area has been cut. 

Not really KP I have alot of them come thru like that. Looks somewhat factory suggesting a hood swap? Maybe not. 

2 hours ago, ericforster said:

I am a small engine mechanic.

Stick around we could use you... 

Thanks for posting we really enjoy yakking about that kind of tractor. 

[Achto 27,570]

2 hours ago, ericforster said:

So the question remains, why is it white? Is it a special edition?

 

 At best I would say that it is a dealer repaint. Why??? I have no idea. I do see that the gas tank & starter/gen are still red. Be interesting to see what color the engine is. Depending on the quality of the job done would determine if you find old paint. When I do a resto or repaint all of the original paint is removed so I can start with bare metal. If I acquired this tractor I would sand a spot on the inside of the hood to see if red paint is reviled.

[OldWorkHorse 3,045]

Pretty good repaint job to age that well and no real clear sign of the RED anywhere.