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Is there a way to test a rectifier and see if it's bad? I'd like to test that before I just throw a new one on. I'd like to diagnose if it's that or if the problem is under the flywheel.

 

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ebinmaine

If you have a dvom or volt meter you can test the output of the engine to see what the voltage is there.  

Should be 35, 38 volts AC.  

 

 

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Handy Don

To the question of testing a rectifier, yes that would be doable.

But most WH engines use a voltage regulator, not a rectifier. Standalone testing of these requires more equipment than a volt meter.

 

The voltage regulator has two jobs: convert the variable voltage A/C power coming from the stator on the engine into DC power, and to regulate the amount of voltage and current flowing through to the battery so it can charge safely. As @ebinmaine notes, it can be “yes or no” tested on a running engine assuming the other parts of the electrical system (stator, battery, wiring) are working properly.

 

Assuming the battery is in good condition and reads ~12v with the engine off

Then with the engine running well above idle, if:

- the stator is generating up to 35 or so volts A/C on its two wires both when connected and when not connected to the regulator

- and the regulator is well grounded

- and the wiring connections are good

- and the regulator's output is between 13 and 16 volts to the battery with the stator wires connected and the battery wire connected,

then “probably it’s ok”. 

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Mike'sHorseBarn
2 hours ago, Handy Don said:

To the question of testing a rectifier, yes that would be doable.

But most WH engines use a voltage regulator, not a rectifier. Standalone testing of these requires more equipment than a volt meter.

 

The voltage regulator has two jobs: convert the variable voltage A/C power coming from the stator on the engine into DC power, and to regulate the amount of voltage and current flowing through to the battery so it can charge safely. As @ebinmaine notes, it can be “yes or no” tested on a running engine assuming the other parts of the electrical system (stator, battery, wiring) are working properly.

 

Assuming the battery is in good condition and reads ~12v with the engine off

Then with the engine running well above idle, if:

- the stator is generating up to 35 or so volts A/C on its two wires both when connected and when not connected to the regulator

- and the regulator is well grounded

- and the wiring connections are good

- and the regulator's output is between 13 and 16 volts to the battery with the stator wires connected and the battery wire connected,

then “probably it’s ok”. 

 

I'll give this a try. Thanks!

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Blasterdad
On 3/8/2023 at 10:03 PM, Mike'sHorseBarn said:

 most WH engines use a voltage regulator, not a rectifier. Standalone testing of these requires more equipment than a volt meter.

 

The voltage regulator has two jobs: convert the variable voltage A/C power coming from the stator on the engine into DC power, and to regulate the amount of voltage and current flowing through to the battery so it can charge safely.

Not true, the rectifier converts the AC voltage to DC, then the regulator controlls the output DC voltage & prevents overcharging.

A regulator does not convert AC to DC voltage.

Just a voltage regulator was used on the older Kohler engines with the belt driven generator/starter combination.

 

Regulator/rectifier

Regulator Rectifier for Kohler, Briggs and Stratton and Tecumseh Engines with Stator Charging System

 

Regulator

Voltage Regulator for Starter Generator 12 Volt System

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