Options for rear weight carrying?

[ebinmaine 67,342]

 

The thought process behind this thread is that I'd like to have the ability to constantly carry as much weight as I can on the back of my 1975 C160 Automatic SAFELY.

 

I have four different styles of hitches I could choose from.

 

1. Standard tab style. I assume the lightest duty. 

 

2. 2" square receiver hitch that I built. No down tube support (yet) but it's extremely heavy duty. Bolts around the 2" square part of the axle. 

I'd rather not use this one because I have plans for it already but figured I'd throw it in the mix.

 

 

3. Sleeve hitch from the mid-60s.

 

4. Clevis hitch such as you'd use with a Brinley garden plow.

I figured this one's probably pretty  rugged?

 

 

 

I do realize that the last two would go up and down with the rock shaft while I'm raising and lowering the plow at the front.

 

Keeping in mind that my snow plow weighs about twice as much as a regular one, does anyone see an issue with overweighting the rock shaft or lift cylinder?

 

What say you, fine Redsquare folk ?

 

 

 

[ri702bill 8,296]

Peektures of the plow and hitch area would be helpful. Best to keep the weight in / on the rear wheels instead of the frame... Unidrive bearings and seal issues.....

[ebinmaine 67,342]

17 minutes ago, ri702bill said:

Peektures of the plow and hitch area would be helpful. Best to keep the weight in / on the rear wheels instead of the frame... Unidrive bearings and seal issues.....

Agreed on all counts...

Can't post pictures because it hasn't been created yet.

 

Fluid fill in the tires totals 15 gallons. That's 155, 160 lbs.

 

Steel weight will be another 130 lb.

 

 

Under normal circumstances that would be fine. 

I'm trying to give myself as much benefit as possible mostly for ice/hard packed snow traction. 

[OutdoorEnvy 1,522]

Seems like you've covered most options.  The 2" receiver and clevis hitch is probably most convenient for taking on and off when not needed.  As you noted though the clevis would move with the plow unless you somehow unhooked the lift arm cable and secured it in place.  Other than that I think this is where running dual rear tires comes in.  You could mount a second set same as you have the original two and gain all that weight and it would be off the frame.  Assuming your driving area is wide enough to handle it. 

 

Last idea might be some of the frame add on weights, etc. that you see the racing pullers use.  Curious to hear what others think as well for this.  I think we've all wondered...

Edited February 27, 2023 by OutdoorEnvy

[Ed Kennell 38,054]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

 

I do realize that the last two would go up and down with the rock

Not if you disconnect the cable and make it a fixed hitch by connecting by a chain to a fixed point.    This is what I did on my 520 to support the rear weights.

 

[JCM 9,130]

Eric, I have a spare Kwik-Way weight box with 2 brackets I could bring up to you if you wanted all dimensions and fab one up. You probably don't need another project but putting the offer out should you decide brother. I use this for the occasional Winter trail ride with no chains. Does well.

[ebinmaine 67,342]

49 minutes ago, OutdoorEnvy said:

As you noted though the clevis would move with the plow unless you somehow unhooked the lift arm cable and secured it in place

 

21 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

Not if you disconnect the cable and make it a fixed hitch by connecting by a chain to a fixed point.    This is what I did on my 520 to support the rear weights.

 

 

 

 

Is there a negative to the load moving with the plow?

Is it too much for the system?

 

If I bolted it solid  - any suggestions for location?

 

 

10 minutes ago, JCM said:

Kwik-Way weight box

 

Where's that fasten on Jim?

 

[JCM 9,130]

At two points. The rear axle and the stock tab hitch. Very simple. Works with or without the Kwik-Way subframe.

[JCM 9,130]

Found another pic. If you zoom in you can see the rear bracket from box diagonally to the rear axle.

[ebinmaine 67,342]

6 minutes ago, JCM said:

At two points. The rear axle and the stock tab hitch. Very simple. Works with or without the Kwik-Way subframe.

I'd like very much to see that rig Sir.  

[JCM 9,130]

Before I sold the loader package I brought the 2 rear brackets to a friend and had him replicate them as I had a mint weight box as a spare. For some reason I didn't want to let that go. It works nice out in the woods when cutting firewood for tools etc. It has a rear tab hitch for the trailer to connect as well. Very handy.

[ebinmaine 67,342]

9 minutes ago, JCM said:

Before I sold the loader package I brought the 2 rear brackets to a friend and had him replicate them as I had a mint weight box as a spare. For some reason I didn't want to let that go. It works nice out in the woods when cutting firewood for tools etc. It has a rear tab hitch for the trailer to connect as well. Very handy.

The box itself would be nice to hold sand for weight and spreading in the driveway.  

 

[WHX?? 48,803]

I made a weight box out of a repurposed file box from a between the seats cabinet on a service van. 

Intention was to fill  it with concrete leaving room for chains tow straps and other possibles... tools, BFH etc... but for now just threw some suitcases in and some heavy chunks of scrap iron. Mounted it to the suitcase bar and it had receiver type hitch I extended to still be able to run a draw bar or ball. 

 

[JCM 9,130]

You could also hook up 3,4,5,6,7, trailers or whatever and look like @SylvanLakeWH  running around your neighborhood   

[953 nut 55,128]

I made up a simple box from old bed frames and a piece of 2"" square that goes into a 2" receiver. It is sized for four 8 X 16 concrete blocks for weight or as a summer carryall.

[Ed Kennell 38,054]

50 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

any suggestions for location?

I'd have to look at mine tomorrow to see what I used.

[ebinmaine 67,342]

9 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

I made up a simple box from old bed frames and a piece of 2"" square that goes into a 2" receiver. It is sized for four 8 X 16 concrete blocks for weight or as a summer carryall.

 

Interesting you'd bring that up Richard. 

One of the thoughts I'd had is to use a 2" hitch with a cargo carrier we have here but rarely use.  

 

[OutdoorEnvy 1,522]

51 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

Interesting you'd bring that up Richard. 

One of the thoughts I'd had is to use a 2" hitch with a cargo carrier we have here but rarely use.  

 

That sounds pretty easy.  Unless you just want a project I’d give that a try and see if it’s what you’re looking to gain.  I think most of those cargo carriers are rated to carry 300-500 pounds.  So you could load it up pretty good.  I’m planning to get one for the tractors at some point.  If you try it share how well it worked, or didn’t.  

[WHX?? 48,803]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

to use a 2" hitch with a cargo carrier we have here but rarely use.  

 

I'm heavy on those carriers... usually reserved for hauling deer kills out of the woods but should consider them for hauling firewood or what not. Sand bags or even just big rocks  for weight??

Edited February 28, 2023 by WHX??

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,037]

You can put 100 lbs in each wheel including the mounting bracket and hardware with the right size of lifting weights.

 

[bmsgaffer 2,043]

I like weight on each wheel and when I need more I have a 2" receiver that was made by a fella on here @n1defan and he make me a suitcase weight bracket to fit it. It IS braced down to the pin though.

 

The tractor is a freight train with all the weights added. 

 

[ebinmaine 67,342]

8 hours ago, OutdoorEnvy said:

That sounds pretty easy.  Unless you just want a project I’d give that a try and see if it’s what you’re looking to gain.  I think most of those cargo carriers are rated to carry 300-500 pounds.  So you could load it up pretty good.  I’m planning to get one for the tractors at some point.  If you try it share how well it worked, or didn’t.  

 

Agreed on the weight capacity of the carriers. 

I'd be more concerned about overweighting the axle of the tractor than the carrier. 

 

The tractor I'm looking to do this on is almost 42" across. I think our particular carrier is right around that so being mindful of the size and space would be necessary. 

The only other thing that comes to mind is the height of the carrier and the angles at which our yard would put it. 

The rear corners could be close to the ground quite often. 

That could be fixed by using a hitch with a riser in it. 

 

[ebinmaine 67,342]

6 hours ago, gwest_ca said:

mounting bracket

Interesting concept. 

I've seen another lifting weight bracket holder that bolted on using the 5 lugs. 

[ri702bill 8,296]

Tire chains. Are yor planning on 2 link of 4 link?? Vee bars or raised bar crosslinks grip well on ice, but will gouge up a driveway surface  and give a kidney rattlin' ride on pavement.

I removed these when the new driveway was paved. Off the top of my head, there are 30 of them - a mix of both styles. Yours free - jut pay shipping - or stop on by next time going thru.....

 

 

Edited February 28, 2023 by ri702bill

[ebinmaine 67,342]

4 minutes ago, ri702bill said:

Tire chains. Are yor planning on 2 link of 4 link?? Vee bars or raised bar crosslinks grip well on ice, but will gouge up a driveway surface

I have 2 sets of 2-link V bar chains. 

I'd like to add more between or to another set.  

 

I'd be very interested in having yours shipped up unless you plan on being at Zagray CT spring show.