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23 Reo

Why does only one wheel spin on my Raider 14?

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WHX??

Broke spring in the differential. I wouldn't run it till we finger this out. Don't want to see some pinions messed up. 

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23 Reo

OK will shut her down. I will need some help with the repair. I've never been in a Wheel Horse trans.

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squonk

It is not a locked posi. It is " Limited Slip. Spring pressure offers resistance to the pinions turning. The difference in traction between each tire relative to the torque applied may be enough to overcome the spring. But most likely the spring is weak or broken.

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WHX??

Will get some other tranny pros to chime in before we get too excited guy. 

Be plenty of help here you need to split it. @stevasaurus even has some vids. 

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daveoman1966

There are several UTube videos on rebuild w/H transmissions.  Key in "Wheelhorse 10-pinion"

 

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953 nut

You should have a 5073 transaxle if it wasn't swapped out by someone. The spring that makes the differential a limited slip can get a bit weak over time or slip to one side where it isn't making any significant contact with the pinions on one side. Time to take it apart and take a look at what is going on. Lowell @wheelhorseman can fix you up with the spring https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/7235-spring/ as well as the seals, gasket and other stuff you'll need.

@stevasaurus has some great threads on transmission repairs.  

 

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WHX??

Nice work ther Richard... someday when EB is somewhat sober :ychain: he needs to show me how to post that stuff on a dumb phone. 

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ebinmaine
11 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Nice work ther Richard... someday when EB is somewhat sober :ychain: he needs to show me how to post that stuff on a dumb phone. 

Only took me like 3 years to figure it out...

 

 

23 minutes ago, 23 Reo said:

OK will shut her down. I will need some help with the repair. I've never been in a Wheel Horse trans.

 

Absolutely no worries.  

 

If'n ya can tell the business end of a screwdriver from the hammerin end you'll do fine. 

 

 

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JCM
35 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

 I wouldn't run it till we finger this out.

How did we ever find someone like you. Boy were we lucky     :ROTF:   :auto-layrubber:  @WHX??

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JCM
14 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Only took me like 3 years to finger it out... Got to add a little Wisconsin dialect in ther.  @WHX??  @ebinmaine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ebinmaine
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Yessuh!! 

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WHX??

Yous is a hoot guys ... I can't help it my spell check says @SylvanLakeWH isn't Sylvia... sides @Pullstart  told me Jim is a little shy in the male department anyway... :huh:

Sorry for our :offtopic:Reo... we'll get your tranny fixed toot sweet. 

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SylvanLakeWH
5 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Yous is a hoot guys ... I can't help it my spell check says @SylvanLakeWH isn't Sylvia... sides @Pullstart  told me Jim is a little shy in the male department anyway... :huh:

Sorry for our :offtopic:Reo... we'll get your tranny fixed toot sweet. 

 

Hey hey hey ... I represent that... :angry-tappingfoot:

 

1 hour ago, WHX?? said:

I wouldn't run it till we finger this out.

 

That, for the underedumacated, is Wisconsinese for "Where'd my curds go?"... 

:confusion-confused:

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WHX??

So @23 Reo Richard says you have a 5073. Please verify this is correct. Can you give us the complete model of the tractor. 

Next question is are you comfortable splitting it?

Your skills mechanical wise?

No crime if not... we can walk you through the whole process... if so we might be able to refer you to some one in your area that is. 

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WHX??
7 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

 

That, for the underedumacated, is Wisconsinese for "Where'd my curds go?"... 

What Sylvia?? ... I *****'s hear you... I will have to finger it out later...:lol:

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WHX??

Sorry for letting  our banter get in your thread ... close knit group here you understand... :)

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ebinmaine
17 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

.. if so we might be able to refer you to some one in your area that is. 

Runnit upta me in Maine. 

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23 Reo

My numbers are model 1-0320 and motor K321S-60137. Is there a way to tell what transmission I have?

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ebinmaine
7 hours ago, 23 Reo said:

My numbers are model 1-0320 and motor K321S-60137. Is there a way to tell what transmission I have?

 

Here's the manual for what should be in there. 

 

 

 

 

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ri702bill

Almost sounds like a good title to a Blues song....

 

"Ma Posi don't Posi, da, da, da, dum.

One wheel be spinnin'. da, da, da, dum...."  :deadhorse:

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953 nut
8 hours ago, 23 Reo said:

My numbers are model 1-0320 and motor K321S-60137. Is there a way to tell what transmission I have?

Presuming we have determined it was a limited slip transaxle with 1 1/8" axles here is a quick way to figure it out. If your transaxle has a dipstick to check the oil it would be the 5073, If the oil level is checked by removing the fill cap located low on the left rear it is a 5060. The brake drum location is different too but not as easy to spot from the outside.

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kpinnc
8 hours ago, 23 Reo said:

Is there a way to tell what transmission I have?

 

Jack the rear wheels up. Spin one side by hand. If the opposite wheel spins the opposite direction, you have a newer 8-pinion differential. If the opposite wheel spins the same direction, you have the original limited slip tranny.

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Pullstart
35 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

The brake drum location is different too but not as easy to spot from the outside.


You can tell brake drum easy enough, if there is a large gap or small gap between the brake drum and the left axle housing.  There is a noticeable difference in the two IPL images too :handgestures-thumbupright:
 

 

 

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953 nut
3 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

You can tell brake drum easy enough,

Also the 5060 brake band metal is thicker and pulls from the bottom whereas the 5073 has thinner metal and pulls from the top. I use the dipstick as an identifier because it is so conspicuous.

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