New vehicles still with the option of the third pedal

[Pullstart 62,889]

New stick shift cars still for sale
 

cool article from Motor Trend…

 

• 2023 Acura Integra
• 2023 BMW M3 and M4
• 2023 Cadillac CT4 Blackwing
• 2023 Cadillac CT5 Blackwing
• 2023 Chevrolet Camaro
• 2023 Dodge Challenger
• 2023 Ford Bronco
• 2023 Ford Mustang
• 2023 Honda Civic
• 2023 Hyundai Elantra N
• 2023 Jeep Gladiator
• 2023 Jeep Wrangler
• 2023 Kia Forte
• 2023 Mazda 3
• 2023 Mazda MX-5 Miata
• 2023 Mini Hardtop
• 2023 Nissan Versa
• 2023 Nissan Z
• 2023 Porsche 718 Boxster and Cayman
• 2023 Porsche 911
• 2023 Subaru Crosstrek
• 2023 Subaru BRZ
• 2023 Subaru Impreza
• 2023 Subaru WRX
• 2023 Toyota Corolla
• 2023 Toyota GR86
• 2023 Toyota Supra
• 2023 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport and Off-Road
• 2023 Volkswagen Golf GTI and Golf R
• 2023 Volkswagen Jetta

[Rob J. 1,942]

Post gen x anti-theft device. 😜

[Achto 27,577]

Good to see that there are still a few vehicles with a proper gear box.  

[JCM 9,168]

My favorite pedal of all three.

[TJ5208 1,824]

32 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

New stick shift cars still for sale
 

cool article from Motor Trend…

 

• 2023 Acura Integra
• 2023 BMW M3 and M4
• 2023 Cadillac CT4 Blackwing
• 2023 Cadillac CT5 Blackwing
• 2023 Chevrolet Camaro
• 2023 Dodge Challenger
• 2023 Ford Bronco
• 2023 Ford Mustang
• 2023 Honda Civic
• 2023 Hyundai Elantra N
• 2023 Jeep Gladiator
• 2023 Jeep Wrangler
• 2023 Kia Forte
• 2023 Mazda 3
• 2023 Mazda MX-5 Miata
• 2023 Mini Hardtop
• 2023 Nissan Versa
• 2023 Nissan Z
• 2023 Porsche 718 Boxster and Cayman
• 2023 Porsche 911
• 2023 Subaru Crosstrek
• 2023 Subaru BRZ
• 2023 Subaru Impreza
• 2023 Subaru WRX
• 2023 Toyota Corolla
• 2023 Toyota GR86
• 2023 Toyota Supra
• 2023 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport and Off-Road
• 2023 Volkswagen Golf GTI and Golf R
• 2023 Volkswagen Jetta

The 2023 Dodge Challengers have stick shifts.

[tunahead72 2,412]

Thanks Kev, I needed that. 

 

[tunahead72 2,412]

1 hour ago, TJ Salyers said:

The 2023 Dodge Challengers have stick shifts.

 

It's in there, #6.

 

[ri702bill 8,323]

The Jeep Gladiator has offered a manual transmission since they were reintroduced in 2019 - but - only on their lowest level trim model with a 4 cylinder. Chevy Colorado did the same - only offered in their W/T plain Jane model. Don't know if they still do that.... or why...

[ri702bill 8,323]

@Pullstart - Why the confusion - I see this as a marketing tool to get you to buy up at least one trim or package level if you need / want a larger engine.

 

Marketing - In my twisted opinion - Jeep missed a good opportunity to grab more market share. They only offer the Gladiator as a 4 door with a 4 foot "Micro-bed" .

Ranger, Toyota, and the Colorado can be had either as above, or as an extended cab - 2 full doors and 2 half doors - along with a five foot bed (barely the size needed to transport a WH)

Looks like they use a lot of the same sheetmetal as the 4 door Jeep....

[Pullstart 62,889]

You know, I’m not sure why they’d go that route.  It pays to do the research I guess… but I still prefer manual stuff.  Rope starters and gear jammers!

[CCW 1,295]

12 hours ago, Rob J. said:

Post gen x anti-theft device. 😜

 

Really anti-theft if it's a three on the tree.

 

Only problem I ran into with manual shift was trying to sell my son's car when the army sent him over seas.  Nobody wanted to buy a manual.  Price kept coming down before I could unload it.

 

[Mike'sHorseBarn 2,998]

10 minutes ago, CCW said:

 

Really anti-theft if it's a three on the tree.

 

Only problem I ran into with manual shift was trying to sell my son's car when the army sent him over seas.  Nobody wanted to buy a manual.  Price kept coming down before I could unload it.

 

 

I might be 1 of 5 post Gen X'ers that can drive a 3 on the tree, but that's because my galaxie is 3 on the tree. I really enjoy driving that car!

 

[Pullstart 62,889]

8 minutes ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said:

 

I might be 1 of 5 post Gen X'ers that can drive a 3 on the tree, but that's because my galaxie is 3 on the tree. I really enjoy driving that car!

 

I as well, with my C10.  I did admit to the seller however, that I had never driven 3OTT and asked for instruction first.

[ri702bill 8,323]

Drove a few of those over the years - the toughest ones were the trucks that had the clutch and brake pedals that went thru the floor in an arc - you had to lift your entire left leg to work the clutch - no "heel & toe" there!! A total PIA when stuck in stop and go traffic uphill.

[ri702bill 8,323]

Try and find a standard shift with cruise control - they are out there, but rarer than rare. My last 2001 Saturn SL2 was a five speed with cruise conrtol ... and an aftermarket remote starter installed.

You HAD to leave the car in neutral to use - no safety interlock there!! If left in gear and the remote kicked in - away it goes.

It did have a small 2 position toggle switch to turn the system off - the seller advised me to do that. If someone had the same frequency remote - BAD things could happen....

[Handy Don 12,232]

My wife was raised in NYC and it was while we were dating that I taught her to drive. ’66 Beetle and she really got into the shifting quickly and well.

A couple years later she was stopped at a steep uphill light in our new-to-us Audi 100 (posi-traction, front-wheel drive, and a lot more horsepower than the VW). Not wanting any chance of a stall or a roll-back, she was a bit heavy on the gas letting out the clutch as we went up and through the intersection. Then she asked if that screeching noise came from our car. I answered “Yep, but no worries, you just spun the tires a bit and left some rubber back there!”

She responded “Ah, so that’s how to hot rod!?” 

[Pullstart 62,889]

25 minutes ago, ri702bill said:

standard shift with cruise control

 

 

 

[pacer 3,171]

Sometime around the late 70's I ran across a 1959 Jaguar Mark 1 needing a clutch - it was so cool I couldnt resist! Was able to find the clutch and managed to get it changed (I think back on that and am amazed that I did!) It was stick shift in the middle hump and had a 'throw' of like maybe 16-18" That took some getting used too!!

 

My bride fell in love with it right off so I jumped in and did a complete rebuild .... she loved to drive that thing, pulling into wally world, sears, etc and people flocking around --- What kind of car is THAT? etc, etc, its beautiful, etc.

 

Thing was a pain in the rear to maintain - positive ground lectrics Carbs constantly needing tuned, brakes??? steering??? etc, etc. I finally told her I'd buy a NEW car if she would give up the Jag. Took me over a year to finally sell it, took a beating on it getting only $3000 --- I prolly had 7-8 in it.

[ri702bill 8,323]

9 minutes ago, pacer said:

positive ground lectrics

Acrost the big pond they refer to it as "positive earth"... Lucas Electrics  Did it run in the rain?? Most did not....

Edited February 14, 2023 by ri702bill

[Rob J. 1,942]

I lost my cherry in a 63 Impala with a 3 on the tree. 

Edited February 14, 2023 by Rob J.

[Blasterdad 2,692]

25 minutes ago, Rob J. said:

I lost my cherry in a 63 Impala with a 3 on the tree. 

Mine was a 1964 Dodge pickup, 225 slant six, 3 on the tree.

One of the best engines ever made.

[pfrederi 17,739]

Driver Ed 1965 Chevy Biscayne 6 with 3 on the tree and 3 other students.  Starting on a hill was a challenge..

 

I think Detroit has forgotten how to build gear boxes.  Back in 1995 I bought a new GMC Sonoma.  I wanted basics 5 spd no power windows (being expensive to fix).  Dealer had to trade for one a couple hundred miles away as sticks were already on the way out.  Throw out bearing cratered at 23000 miles but over three yeasr old so i ate that.  Tranny gave up entirely at about 90k.  Had a Jasper rebuild put in.  It got locked in gear about 5 months later.  (They replaced that one for free.) Gave it to my niece in 2016 only had 125k on it.  She uses it a bit in the winter and to haul her kyacks still running.  Oh and the window hand crank broke and then it ate 2 more replacements....

[cafoose 3,355]

[Rob J. 1,942]

30 minutes ago, Blasterdad said:

Mine was a 1964 Dodge pickup, 225 slant six, 3 on the tree.

One of the best engines ever made.

I had a 77 Volare. Good car. Body was Swiss cheese but that slant 6 you couldn’t kill it. The only car I’ve owned that’s been stolen. 😜

[Handy Don 12,232]

I suspect the move from sticks to automatics is significantly driven by engine management to meet EPA fuel economy and emission regulations. Sticks are no longer the most fuel efficient or cleanest (sorry) and computerized engine/transmission controls have become extremely powerful. Keeping the number of sticks in the fleet low helps with the fleet mileage targets. For performance models, they just price ‘em to eat the penalty.

Spoiler and blasphemy alert:  Subaru’s CVT is incredibly efficient, reasonably reliable, and kinda boring to drive!