RandyLittrell 3,884 #1 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) I need to put gutters on the shop this year and would like some advice on what to install. My shop is just a 24x24 so the facia is 26' or so. They seem to sell 16' and 10' sections so that will work by the time I add in the down spouts. They sell aluminum, steel and plastic. What have you used, or would recommend? Thanks in advance!! I found this video and this seems to be about what I am thinking of doing. Randy Edited February 6, 2023 by RandyLittrell 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,553 #2 Posted February 6, 2023 Randy you may want to shop around on the price a little. The building supply company I work for sells gutters that are one piece up to 38 ft. Delivered right to the job site. Not having a seam in the middle of the setup would make a fairly serious price difference worth it to me. Has to material, I'd go aluminum. Plastic is fine and I've used it in the past but it's prone to cracking in very cold weather so I won't go that route again. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyLittrell 3,884 #3 Posted February 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: The building supply company I work for sells gutters that are one piece up to 38 ft. Delivered right to the job site. I have a car trailer, so I could haul a 26' piece no problem. I will check in to that, thanks! Randy 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,594 #4 Posted February 6, 2023 Definitely seemless... Aluminum. Pay particular attention to downspout locations... Water / ice where you want it, not at doors / walkways... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPINJIM 1,981 #5 Posted February 6, 2023 I had a company install one piece 40 foot gutters on my pole barn. The rolled it out on the job from a huge roll of aluminum, and molded it to whatever shape or dimension is needed. Installed all the brackets, etc. The price was reasonable because they do nothing else but rain gutters & downspouts. And, I didn't have to risk getting up and down on ladders. Well worth the money. That's how all of the home builders do it. Jim 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyLittrell 3,884 #6 Posted February 6, 2023 If I can buy some seamless. cash and carry, I will go that route. But there is no budget to hire it done, time for my kids to pay it back a bit! I only have 8' walls so I can almost touch the facia boards from the ground, no big ladder. Aluminum is what I figured, it's what I have on my house and we have lived there since 94 without any problems. I appreciate the advice guys!!! Randy 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,327 #7 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, SylvanLakeWH said: Definitely seemless... Aluminum. Pay particular attention to downspout locations... Water / ice where you want it, not at doors / walkways... All the above. Seamless aluminum, made right here by a local vendor - INSTALLED by him - did a great job on the pitch and the downspout that hugs the house. Also had him install the screw-in removable "gutter guards" Not that fly-away in a wind storm snap in garbage. Removeable is the key word - he told me that in 10 years or so, there may be enough silt accumulated to allow small plants to grow thru the guard. Call him back to clean them out!!! Edited February 6, 2023 by ri702bill 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,553 #8 Posted February 6, 2023 44 minutes ago, RandyLittrell said: If I can buy some seamless. cash and carry, I will go that route. But there is no budget to hire it done, time for my kids to pay it back a bit! I only have 8' walls so I can almost touch the facia boards from the ground, no big ladder. Aluminum is what I figured, it's what I have on my house and we have lived there since 94 without any problems. I appreciate the advice guys!!! Randy You may want to find out how much the delivery fee is. My particular location up in the Northeast here is $35. Some areas it's free but of course nothing's really free.... I don't know what your cutoff threshold would be but place the value on that carefully of you needing to transport gutter that is flimsy, down the road, versus just paying somebody a few extra bucks to get it to your house where it's guaranteed to arrive in good condition. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,327 #9 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) You buy it cash & carry - you own it. You kink it installing it - tough cookies !! The installer that made it on site - if HE kinks it - he just bangs out another one..... Edited February 6, 2023 by ri702bill 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,553 #10 Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, ri702bill said: You buy it cash & carry - yuo own it. You kink it installing it - tough cookies !! The installer that made it on site - if HE kinks it - he just bangs out another one..... Handling a 26 ft piece in the yard while just walking around won't be any kind of difficult or prone to kinking or waving as long as the quality is slightly off the bottom shelf or higher. Transporting it down the road on the other hand.... That can be exceedingly tricky. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPINJIM 1,981 #11 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, SPINJIM said: I had a company install one piece 40 foot gutters on my pole barn. The rolled it out on the job from a huge roll of aluminum, and molded it to whatever shape or dimension is needed. Installed all the brackets, etc. The price was reasonable because they do nothing else but rain gutters & downspouts. And, I didn't have to risk getting up and down on ladders. Well worth the money. That's how all of the home builders do it. Jim Cost about $400 for two 40 foot sections, including downspouts and all brackets. If your wall is 8' high, you will have to climb to 10' to do the installation. A friend fell from a ladder, and broke both of his ankles. He was never the same after that. At my age, I try to avoid ladders. Edited February 6, 2023 by SPINJIM 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,327 #12 Posted February 6, 2023 Best to be penny wise, but not dollar foolish.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,071 #13 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Definitely not plastic… Seamless aluminum with 3x4 downspouts… Some companies will come by with their machine and roll the seamless lengths you need, and you install… Make the high point in the middle of the run and slope it slightly towards each end. Or if using one downspout start a little high on opposite end from downspout. I doesn’t have to have much slope at all… 1/8 inch per foot will give you a 3 inch drop in 24 feet, and that would be too much and look like crap. If you put a downspout on each end, then start high in the middle, then you would only drop 1.5 inches to each end cap. And that may be too much of a drop. At your age 8 feet or so on a ladder may be doable, but I will have to agree with what others have said about those ladders. Not so easy to bounce back as we get older… Edited February 6, 2023 by Horse Newbie 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrc 812 #14 Posted February 6, 2023 if you go aluminum, get the screw in brackets. not the BIG NAIL thru type. those always loosen up. the back wall of my house/ garage is 98 feet long. years ago i had a gutter company come over and make a 1 piece seamless aluminum gutter. the guys had it made and installed in under 1.5 hours! used commercial sized downspouts. perfect pitch etc. cannot remember the cost but, worth it in my opinion. regards mike 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,307 #15 Posted February 6, 2023 I had a guy roll and install gutters to avoid a seam, the price was fair. He used a glass of water as he went along to insure a good slope in the right direction. Tomorrow I am getting a quote on a new roof and gutter guards, it never ends. I can't get hold of my good Amish man, so I called another. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,071 #16 Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) I had seamless with leaf guards installed, oversized (commercial) downspouts installed… At $10.00 per foot it was quite expensive and well worth it. My house has a hip roof so it got expensive. Had many oak trees at the time and they would have wreaked havoc on the gutters. Had to have a roof a few years back. Roofers found the starter strip not installed properly so I had some rot around the eaves causing the facia to pull away. The gutters were screwed up and guaranteed for life to not pull way from the facia, but the gutter company did not guarantee that the facia would not pull away. After the roofers were done I went all the way around the house with 4 inch screws screwing each gutter hanger into the rafter ends. (Hanger every 2 feet) It’s stout now ! Edited February 7, 2023 by Horse Newbie 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elcamino/wheelhorse 9,314 #17 Posted February 7, 2023 I would install the larger down spouts. I had the larger gutters and down spouts installed on my house last years. Gutters made on site. One guy to make gutters and do the installation of gutters and down spouts and I watched. Ole guys have to supervise. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyLittrell 3,884 #18 Posted February 7, 2023 I so appreciate all the advice guys, but I will say this will be a diy project. I'm 56 and on disability, but my kids are in their 20's. I will be supervising this project from the ground!! I have only paid someone a couple of times to do work on my house, we do most all of it ourselves. But we did most of the first shingle job after I bought the house and Dad and I agreed, we would hire that job out from then on! 3 hours ago, Horse Newbie said: Definitely not plastic… Seamless aluminum with 3x4 downspouts… Some companies will come by with their machine and roll the seamless lengths you need, and you install… Make the high point in the middle of the run and slope it slightly towards each end. Or if using one downspout start a little high on opposite end from downspout. I doesn’t have to have much slope at all… 1/8 inch per foot will give you a 3 inch drop in 24 feet, and that would be too much and look like crap. If you put a downspout on each end, then start high in the middle, then you would only drop 1.5 inches to each end cap. And that may be too much of a drop. At your age 8 feet or so on a ladder may be doable, but I will have to agree with what others have said about those ladders. Not so easy to bounce back as we get older… Thanks @Horse Newbie!!!! Randy 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #19 Posted February 7, 2023 The 'stock' stuff from the big box stores is made of aluminum foil. Put a ladder against it and it dents... EASILY! AVOID! Agree on the bigger downspout size and the screw in anchors. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,280 #20 Posted February 7, 2023 12 hours ago, mrc said: cannot remember the cost but, worth it in my opinion That is the quote of the day for me. If you are happy with the job they did and no one got hurt doing it you won't remember the price, just the value of a job well done. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,233 #21 Posted February 7, 2023 10 hours ago, RandyLittrell said: I have only paid someone a couple of times to do work on my house, we do most all of it ourselves. But we did most of the first shingle job after I bought the house and Dad and I agreed, we would hire that job out from then on! I started a new rule a couple years back for helping my children with home repairs: I’m glad to help but I am the brains not the brawn. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
