Kohler Air cleaner base screw size?

[ebinmaine 67,463]

 

Anyone know what the size of the screws are that hold the air cleaner base to the carb on big block Kohler engines?

 

[RED-Z06 2,221]

9 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

Anyone know what the size of the screws are that hold the air cleaner base to the carb on big block Kohler engines?

 

Im 99% sure kohler and onan are both 10-32x3/8.  if you have a known 10-32 you can try it and see.

[Achto 27,570]

 I believe that @RED-Z06 is correct.

[WHX?? 48,815]

This was just perused in another thread about those on a Onan ... 10-32 and green locktite... 

[RED-Z06 2,221]

I try to use allen head bolts when i remember to get them, i can spin them out faster and the driver doesn't slip off like flathead or phillips

[ebinmaine 67,463]

6 hours ago, WHX?? said:

green locktite

Green?

Boy you REALLY don't want those to come out ehh?

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,463]

7 hours ago, RED-Z06 said:

.  if you have a known 10-32 you can try it and see.

I don't think I've ever lost a sock 🧦 in the wash 🧽  but I have at least 3 carbs apart right now and I don't have my sights 🕵️‍♂️ on a single one of those damn tiny little bolts.  🔩

 

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,463]

6 hours ago, RED-Z06 said:

I try to use allen head bolts when i remember to get them, i can spin them out faster and the driver doesn't slip off like flathead or phillips

 

This is one of the rare instances where I use one of those ancient tools. 🪛🪛🪛

 

I have tried to use the Allen heads but they strip too easily.  

 

[squonk 41,097]

2 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

I don't think I've ever lost a sock 🧦 in the wash 🧽  but I have at least 3 carbs apart right now and I don't have my sights 🕵️‍♂️ on a single one of those damn tiny little bolts.  🔩

 

 

 

Those bolts are with the linkage clip that flew off. 

[ebinmaine 67,463]

Just now, squonk said:

Those bolts are with the linkage clip that flew off. 

 

 

I believe that to be a reasonable assumption and I appreciate the information but it doesn't change the fact that I still have not found that little basement workshop time and space wormhole where these things fly to...

But then again.....

I've lost many many things right in plain sight of my own eyes before.  

[953 nut 55,212]

The best way to find a lost object is to go to the store and buy a replacement, when you put the bag down the lost object will be right next to it, works every time.

[ebinmaine 67,463]

24 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

The best way to find a lost object is to go to the store and buy a replacement, when you put the bag down the lost object will be right next to it, works every time.

 

I am well aware of this Object Location Method having used it myself on a passel of occasions.

 

Just this past Saturday I got my stock order of fasteners in the mailbox.

In that order was a package of 100, 5/16 - 18 nylock nuts.

When I was putting that in it's appropriate place I found another bag, roughly 3/4 full so I don't think I was in great danger of running out of those anytime soon.

What was even better than that...

In that same order on another line item I had the exact same thing.

Apparently there is some small part of me that felt like I needed an over abundance of these, twice.

 

 

 

 

[lynnmor 7,305]

11 hours ago, WHX?? said:

This was just perused in another thread about those on a Onan ... 10-32 and green locktite... 

I mentioned blue thread locker there. 

[RED-Z06 2,221]

4 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

I don't think I've ever lost a sock 🧦 in the wash 🧽  but I have at least 3 carbs apart right now and I don't have my sights 🕵️‍♂️ on a single one of those damn tiny little bolts.  🔩

 

 

 

Filter screws often get removed first at the tractor, check your filter lid and fenders, i typically put my filter screws in my filter lid, put the filter in it, then put the removed base back over it with the wingnut to hold it together, otherwise those screws will walk away.

 

 

[squonk 41,097]

Loctite general rule of thumb:

 

Green Loctite:

Bearing and sleeve retainer Slip fit parts

 

Blue Loctite:

For locking screws nuts and bolts. Can be removed with tools

 

Red Loctite:

For locking screws nuts and bolts. Will need heat and or excessive force to remove. 

Edited February 6, 2023 by squonk

[RED-Z06 2,221]

4 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

This is one of the rare instances where I use one of those ancient tools. 🪛🪛🪛

 

I have tried to use the Allen heads but they strip too easily.  

 

Just tight, not 38 ft/lbs my man 🤣🤣🤣

 

But really, with the right size allen, you should be able to install/remove them with a 1/4" impact.  I use a tekton impact allen driver set alot.

[RED-Z06 2,221]

23 minutes ago, squonk said:

Loctite general rule of thumb:

 

Green Loctite:

Bearing and sleeve retainer Slip fit parts

 

Blue Loctite:

For locking screws nuts and bolts. Can be removed with tools

 

Red Loctite:

For locking screws nuts and bolts. Will need heat and or excessive force to remove. 

I thought green was for wicking into already installed hardware

[squonk 41,097]

41 minutes ago, RED-Z06 said:

I thought green was for wicking into already installed hardware

Yes. It is for that also. Just a different number on the tube /bottle

 

         

Edited February 6, 2023 by squonk

[RED-Z06 2,221]

40 minutes ago, squonk said:

Yes. It is for that also. Just a different number on the tube /bottle

 

         

I use their 680 retaining compound alot, when doing spindle rebuilds its sometimes tedious when alone to try and hold the blade, adapter, shaft up into the housing while trying to install the pulley and nut above..so a drop on the shaft at the bearings, holds it in place.

[ebinmaine 67,463]

1 hour ago, RED-Z06 said:

Filter screws often get removed first at the tractor, check your filter lid and fenders, i typically put my filter screws in my filter lid, put the filter in it, then put the removed base back over it with the wingnut to hold it together, otherwise those screws will walk away.

 

 

 

 

That's about what I do every time too.

When I hand it off the air filter cover to Trina to get painted I looked in the bag that I thought they were in. I was 2/3 correct.

I was able to find two of the three that go with this engine, one of the three that went with another, so I figured that would do all right.

😂

 

 

[sparkie333 265]

8 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

 

That's about what I do every time too.

When I hand it off the air filter cover to Trina to get painted I looked in the bag that I thought they were in. I was 2/3 correct.

I was able to find two of the three that go with this engine, one of the three that went with another, so I figured that would do all right.

😂

 

 

I agree 100%-------- Have a good one.

[rick 233]

Loctite 222MS Purple Threadlocker Low Strength would be my choice for that particular purpose.  

 

[formariz 11,987]

My youngest is a mechanic. Will not start any job without at least two or three of those magnetic dishes next to him. He always said that one would be surprised as to where bolts wind up once they are lost. Many times with catastrophic results. 

[squonk 41,097]

I hate it when I do a job with those magnetic dishes and I put every single piece in them. And still something disappears!

[formariz 11,987]

35 minutes ago, squonk said:

I hate it when I do a job with those magnetic dishes and I put every single piece in them. And still something disappears!

You need more dishes?