chris11 184 #26 Posted December 10, 2011 Duff i have a case with all good bearings in it if you want it . 8 speed just replace the seals . Its yours if you want it. Chris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irv 115 #27 Posted December 12, 2011 Another option, check with member racinfool40, he sometimes has good used bearings for cheap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fun Engineer 859 #28 Posted February 19, 2012 This Cross Reference Chart is just what I needed for my Commando 8, 5053 transmission. Thanks guys for all the imput. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
608KEB 796 #29 Posted February 22, 2012 i got the bearing cross ref. chart from PDF file and ordered all the bearings, except for #1533 S.O.L..!!! Thanks for the input...I guess when I decided to buy some horse's last summer I didn't know what I was getting into. Everyone at the website has been more than helpful!!KB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fun Engineer 859 #30 Posted February 27, 2012 I need some help with bearing identification. the Bearing Cross Reference Charts sticky says that the 1508 needle bearings (2) are a B-1012. My problem is that the manual says this is a 3/4 I.D. bearing. The sticky calls it a 0.3730 which is what Applied Industrial Technoligies says the B-1012 is. My question is what is the proper replacement for the 1508 bearings? This is a 5053 transmission by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racinfool40 202 #31 Posted February 27, 2012 you need the 3/4" I.D bearing #1508 which also has a new # of 252-6 http://www.rcpw.com/...x=19&search.y=6 MIKE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fun Engineer 859 #32 Posted February 27, 2012 Thanks Mike. I don't suppose you have a Torrington cross reference number for the new 252-6 Toro number? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racinfool40 202 #33 Posted February 27, 2012 No I don't maybe some one else will chime in...All the bearings I have ordered I got thru RCPW.. MIKE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dclarke 4,055 #34 Posted February 27, 2012 I need some help with bearing identification. the Bearing Cross Reference Charts sticky says that the 1508 needle bearings (2) are a B-1012. My problem is that the manual says this is a 3/4 I.D. bearing. The sticky calls it a 0.3730 which is what Applied Industrial Technoligies says the B-1012 is. My question is what is the proper replacement for the 1508 bearings? This is a 5053 transmission by the way. I don't know if this is correct or if it will help but I have the #1508 bearing crossing to a B1212. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sorekiwi 761 #35 Posted February 28, 2012 I don't know if this is correct or if it will help but I have the #1508 bearing crossing to a B1212. Thats what I have in my notes here too. 3/4" ID, I" OD, 3/4" wide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,133 #36 Posted February 28, 2012 i think i remember there being something not right with the bearing cross reference when i was doing the 1057 trans. these are all the numbers i have and the torrington numbers bearings. input 3/4 wh1508 b1212brg 2@5.60 (originally 1) brake 1 wh1530 b1612brg 1@6.42 closed 3/4 wh1529 m12121brg 2@6.83 closed 5/8 wh1531 m10121brg 1@6.33 closed 1 wh1532 m16121brg 1@6.40 axle 1 1/8 wh1526 b1816brg 2@7.39 oil seals input 3/4 wh1303 c/r7410 1@3.66 brake 1 wh1232 c/r9815 1@3.00 axle 1 1/8 wh1213 c/r11050 2@3.97 heres the info from the sticky...... Posted 25 July 2009 - 07:43 AM Useage Noun Toro Part# Other Brand Other # Differential Bearing Ball Bearing 1.5"ID 1533 S.O.L. 1-1/8" Axle Needle Bearing 9416 Torrington B-1816 Axle 1 " 1528 B-1616 Brake Shaft (old 1") 1530 B-1612 Brake Closed end 1" 1532 M-16121 Brake Shaft new 3/4 1523 B-1212 Brake Closed end 3/4" 1529 M-12121 Input open 5/8 1508 B-1012 Input Closed end 1531 M-10121 Tiller shaft Bearing 6838 B-2016 Tiller Intermediate shaft 1532 M-16121 Tiller Input Closed 1429 M-12121 Tiller input open 1540 B-128 Seals 3/4 " Brake Shaft 100441 C/R 7410 1" Axle -Old Brake Shaft 1232 C/R 9815 5/8 (.625) Input Shaft 100442 C/R 6105 1-1/8" Axle 100443 C/R 11050 Tiller Shaft 103118 C/R 12330 if you go down to the pdf i think it has the same numbers....... http://www.brandywin...ssReference.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fun Engineer 859 #37 Posted February 28, 2012 dclarke and sorekiwi That's what I was hoping for. Unfortunately the cross reference chart lists the 1508 as a 5/8 ID. I ordered the B1212 hoping they will be the right ones. Thanks for your help. I'll post my findings when I install the bearings which won't be for about two weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fun Engineer 859 #38 Posted February 28, 2012 Thanks Martin. I'll check your numbers against what I ordered. Other than the different axle size both our numbers match up. Thanks again, Martin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fun Engineer 859 #39 Posted February 29, 2012 My bearings arrived today. I'm leaving on vacation and won't be able to install them until the 17th. Looks like they 're going to fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chevrat68 19 #40 Posted March 27, 2012 The b-107 is the correct bearing for in 3/4 inch input on the 1 1/8 inch axle trans. Just had to order one from napa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,133 #41 Posted March 27, 2012 according to motion industries..... b-107 is... View Details Koyo NRB B 107 BRG ID - 5/8" OD - 13/16" W - 7/16", Unsealed, Full Complement Roller Bearing the b-1212 is..... View Details Koyo NRB B 1212 BRG ID - 3/4" OD - 1" W - 3/4", Unsealed, Full Complement Roller Bearing for a 3/4 input i would be using the b-1212. are you sure that napa gave you the right number? from experience i know the b-1212 is right for the 3/4 input shaft trans with 1 1/8 axles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chevrat68 19 #42 Posted March 27, 2012 The number on the old bearing pulled out of my trans is a b-107. Napa could not find a b-1212 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,277 #43 Posted March 27, 2012 The number on the old bearing pulled out of my trans is a b-107. Napa could not find a b-1212 apparently Napa didn't look too hard My info agrees with Martin's above. B1212 Koyo 3/4 x 1 x 3/4 $4.72 from EB atmus B107 5/8 x 13/16 x 7/16 $4.09 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fun Engineer 859 #44 Posted March 27, 2012 I've got my trans cleaned up and ready to install my bearings and seals this weekend. I'll let everyone know what I find out with regards to the correct numbers for the B-1212 from Torrington. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,133 #45 Posted March 27, 2012 just went out and checked the numbers on the removed bearings from my 5058 trans rebuild. my memory is fairly good for stuff like this, but just to be sure i checked..... the input shaft on this trans is 3/4", brake shaft is 1" and it has 1 1/8" axles....... the open bearing on the input has torrington b-1212 on it. like i said earlier the b-107 is for a 5/8 shaft. the later transmissions used a 5/8 shaft but the wh 1508 bearing for that shaft crosses to a b-1012 which is...... View Details Koyo NRB B 1012 BRG ID - 5/8" OD - 13/16" W - 3/4", Unsealed, Full Complement Roller Bearing same in id od but the width is narrower on a b-107.... View Details Koyo NRB B 107 BRG ID - 5/8" OD - 13/16" W - 7/16", Unsealed, Full Complement Roller Bearing if you have a 5/8 shaft i would still choose the b-1012 over the b-107 as its considerably wider. i dont think napa really looked at the dimensions real close as the width is a important consideration. i ended up putting two open bearings on my input as there was room for them, and theres more support for that end of the shaft. theres no way that i would be happy putting a bearing in there with 1/4" less width than even the factory installed....... just my ............ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chevrat68 19 #46 Posted March 28, 2012 My housing is only 1/2 inch thick for the input bearing and seal. I just got the bearing 1212 and it is too wide. No room for a seal and it hits my high low gear assembly. The number I took out of my 6 speed said b-107 stamped on it. Are we talking about different transmissions? I have a 71 raider 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chevrat68 19 #47 Posted March 28, 2012 Sorry the bearing sent is in the wrong box. Different no. On the bearing and the box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,133 #48 Posted March 28, 2012 My housing is only 1/2 inch thick for the input bearing and seal. I just got the bearing 1212 and it is too wide. No room for a seal and it hits my high low gear assembly. The number I took out of my 6 speed said b-107 stamped on it. Are we talking about different transmissions? I have a 71 raider 14 yes we are.... not sure when they changed from 3/4 to the 5/8 input, but if i had to guess the old 3 speed(without the high/low) had the 3/4 and the trans with the high low has a 5/8 input. hence the 5/8 bearing that you pulled. the b1212 is for a 3/4 shaft. easiest way is to measure your input shaft....... The b-107 is the correct bearing for in 3/4 inch input on the 1 1/8 inch axle trans. Just had to order one from napa. nope..... this is for a 5/8 shaft. so you must have a 5/8 input trans........ as far as the bearing width, i havent done a 5/8 shaft trans, so cant comment on your clearance problem. are you saying that you got a totally different bearing? it was packaged wrong? i assume that since it hasnt been mentioned before by any of the trans guys on here, that the 5/8 input bearing (open end) would be the b-1012 with a 3/4" width. these things can be frustrating at times, im sure you will get it worked out though....... :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chevrat68 19 #49 Posted April 1, 2012 Sorry about being confusing but I have never rebuilt a small trans like this. I'm used to rebuilding baton fuller transmissions in like a Internationals and other trucks. It is nice to be able to pick up a trans and not need a forklift. I think the hole trans is about the same weight as a single gear. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fun Engineer 859 #50 Posted April 6, 2012 Well Murphy's Law has struck the Funengineers shop. I layed out all my bearings before pressing them into place and found I was short one. I checked, double checked and finally triple checked. Yep, I ordered the exact number of each bearing the owners manual said was required. Here-in lies the problem. The owners manual is wrong. The wh pn 1529 (Torrington M-12121) lists only one bearing. There are actually two. So... I finally got the second bearing and will be able to finish this thing next weekend. At least I'm able to paint parts while I wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
