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SylvanLakeWH

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2 hours ago, Blackm84 said:

I'm going to power wash the C model and get it in the garage and start working on it,

Glad you made the purchase, you will be amazed at the work a "C" will do.

Prior to pressure washing I would suggest yo remove the engine tins and clean up the cooling fins too. Never know what may be in there including rodent nests and insect nests.

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Blackm84

I am going to do a complete disassemble and rebuild of the whole tractor.  That will be my main mower and tractor and I will retire my lt1000.  I've come to the conclusion that the wheelhorse will be better then anything I buy brand new.  Only thing that concerns me is cutting my ditch and starving the engine of oil but I also heard that is only a problem in the briggs with opposed cylinders and the oil slinger.

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Blackm84

Well got them home here is some pics

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Blackm84

Here is one of the blower and deck

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Blackm84

So the c145 needs a fuel pump rebuild, starts on carb cleaner.  I want to get it running and and change oil and see what kind of shape the motor is in.  But in the meantime I have to start trying to find a new seat or seat repair kit and a rear bumper the plastic one is cracked.

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Blasterdad

Nice! It looks like a 42" RD deck.

By what I can see I don't think the snowblower is for the "C", looks like a "B" set up.

Interesting "drift buster" on the front of it, just when I thought I've seen it all, Lol.

Not sure about the plow either, the mount looks fabricated? :dunno:

It also looks like the hitch housing on the back of the transmission is busted on the "C"

She should clean up nice! :thumbs:

 

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Blackm84

yea it looks like its partially cracked for the hitch mount, I am going to ask my buddy to see if I can try and weld a piece on there if not the only thing its going to pull is a small yard dump cart.  I need a service manual or parts break down especially for the front tie rods, it needs new ones but I am unsure which ones to get.  I really like the b-165 both models the tags are no longer legible so there either an 83 or 84. 

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SylvanLakeWH
1 minute ago, Blackm84 said:

front tie rods, it needs new ones but I am unsure which ones to get.

wheelhorsepartsandmore.com has them. He's a vendor here... Good stuff and good people...

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Blackm84

million dollar questions is the seat and rear panel/fender/bumper going to have to check ebay.  If I am not mistaken the 3,4,5 series rear panel/bumper will fit correct?

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Blackm84

Here is a top pic of the deck

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Blasterdad
2 minutes ago, Blackm84 said:

Here is a top pic of the deck

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That goes to the "C" :thumbs:

Did you get the mule drive for the deck with it?

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Blackm84
5 minutes ago, Blasterdad said:

That goes to the "C" :thumbs:

Did you get the mule drive for the deck with it?

I might have it has a bucket full of parts.  what is the mule drive?  Sorry if its a dumb questions I am new to these machines.

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Pullstart

Awesome scores!  You might be soon looking for an 8 speed C series for the tiller… it may push the hydro more than you like.  
 

I have a steel C series fender pan that I have no use for…. Shipping would be a killer though..

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Blasterdad
1 minute ago, Blackm84 said:

I might have it has a bucket full of parts.  what is the mule drive?  Sorry if its a dumb questions I am new to these machines.

 

Best pics I have at the moment, they're the PTO drive pulleys that mount on the front Tach-A-Matic...IMG_0401.JPG.bdd61f6dd8645fe83655ef3afa2acfd7.JPGPYWJ5536.JPG.4c0490cd80880022ebf8cd2207ca3c3d.JPG

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Blackm84
4 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

Awesome scores!  You might be soon looking for an 8 speed C series for the tiller… it may push the hydro more than you like.  
 

I have a steel C series fender pan that I have no use for…. Shipping would be a killer though..

Sending a pm.

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Blackm84
3 minutes ago, Blasterdad said:

 

Best pics I have at the moment, they're the PTO drive pulleys that mount on the front Tach-A-Matic...IMG_0401.JPG.bdd61f6dd8645fe83655ef3afa2acfd7.JPGPYWJ5536.JPG.4c0490cd80880022ebf8cd2207ca3c3d.JPG

Yes i think i saw that in the bucket by chance does it have 2 pulleys?  I might be hunting a new one of those as one of the pulleys was really bent up.

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Blasterdad

Yes, that's it, 2 pulleys...:thumbs:

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Blackm84
Just now, Blasterdad said:

Yes, that's it, 2 pulleys...:thumbs:

yea then I might have to hunt one down as one of the pulleys was bent really bad.  Will any mule drive fit on the c-145?  or are they really specific?

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Blasterdad
7 minutes ago, Blackm84 said:

yea then I might have to hunt one down as one of the pulleys was bent really bad.  Will any mule drive fit on the c-145?  or are they really specific?

Any C, 300 400 500 should work, the mule for a 520 H 60" deck being the exception, ( won't work ).

I think the 37" deck had a funky mule too...

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Brockport Bill
1 hour ago, Blackm84 said:

Here is one of the blower and deck

20230212_140216.jpg

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suggest you consider sand blast to clean bottom rust and corrosion -- get to clean metal, then prime and paint -- i did that and made major improvement - adds many years to lnogevity - - also installed delector flange on rear ( use cariage bolt with rounded head ) Cuttings do not discharge to rear underneath of tractor onto wheel rims, tires and tranny --- i used kitchen cabinate vinyl kick plate that has natural curve on edge 

wh  42 inch R.d. mower rear flange.jpg

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wh 42 rd deck bottom 2.jpg

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Blackm84
4 minutes ago, Blasterdad said:

Any C, 300 400 500 should work, the mule for a 520 H 60" deck being the exception, ( won't work ).

I will see if I can find it tomorrow and take a picture.  Maybe the pulleys are removable?

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Blasterdad
Just now, Blackm84 said:

I will see if I can find it tomorrow and take a picture.  Maybe the pulleys are removable?

Yes they are :thumbs:

Pretty easy to replace...:)

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Blackm84
3 minutes ago, Brockport Bill said:

suggest you consider sand blast to clean bottom rust and corrosion -- get to clean metal, then prime and paint -- i did that and made major improvement - adds many years to lnogevity - - also installed delector flange on rear ( use cariage bolt with rounded head ) Cuttings do not discharge to rear underneath of tractor onto wheel rims, tires and tranny --- i used kitchen cabinate vinyl kick plate that has natural curve on edge 

wh  42 inch R.d. mower rear flange.jpg

wh 42 r.d. mower rear flange.jpg

wh 42 rd deck bottom 2.jpg

I plan on total disassembly and rebuild with stainless bolts and to rebuild the spindles.  That vinyl cabinet kick plate is genius!

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Horse Newbie
1 hour ago, Blackm84 said:

I need a service manual or parts break down especially for the front tie rods, it needs new ones but I am unsure which ones to get

Buy new ends from McMaster-Carr and build your own… they will be better than factory. That seems to be the trend around here.

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