Horse Newbie 7,051 #1 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) So here it is… my newly acquired 1977 C-160. Drove 89 miles one way to scoop her up… So far here are the obvious things that will need doing… 1. Oil change 2. Check/ charge battery 3. Investigate why my electrical hoses were leaking smoke while I was trying to unload her. 4. Repair or rewire those smoking hoses. 5. When I get her running, flush and refill transmission. 6. Rub down her work clothes with a penetrating fluid to freshen up her threads. 7. Replace front wheel bearings… hope the lack of which did not ruin front spindles. 8. Replace shifter boot. And that’s just a start… here are a few pics… Edited January 30, 2023 by Horse Newbie 8 20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,051 #2 Posted January 30, 2023 What does the K341S mean on the Kohler… I was wondering balance gears or not… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAJoe 842 #3 Posted January 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said: What does the K341S mean on the Kohler… I was wondering balance gears or not… 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OutdoorEnvy 1,522 #4 Posted January 30, 2023 Awesome grab! That will be a fun one to put back to work! K341s is the engine model. You’ll need that for any parts, manuals, etc. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,051 #5 Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, OutdoorEnvy said: Awesome grab! That will be a fun one to put back to work! K341s is the engine model. You’ll need that for any parts, manuals, etc. Would it have balance gears needing to be taken out ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,783 #6 Posted January 30, 2023 Nice machine Tim! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHGuy413 2,683 #7 Posted January 30, 2023 Nice tractor! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,678 #8 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said: Would it have balance gears needing to be taken out ? Yes my C160 had balance gears. I have a C161 I bought with a disintegrated piston/scored cylinder. A balance gear was the cause. Great looking tractor, I love my C160. Edited January 30, 2023 by oliver2-44 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineedanother 1,369 #9 Posted January 30, 2023 Nice find! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 11,896 #10 Posted January 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Horse Newbie said: So here it is… my newly acquired 1977 C-160. Brother you did great! That's a bucket list machine! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 11,896 #11 Posted January 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Horse Newbie said: Would it have balance gears needing to be taken out ? Absolutely. They are easily removed. Just a bleeping heavy engine to set off the frame to get them. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,259 #12 Posted January 30, 2023 7 hours ago, Horse Newbie said: electrical hoses were leaking smoke while I was trying to unload her. 4. Repair or rewire those smoking hoses Not really sure why you call those hoses. I believe they're pipes. Possibly tubes. Seriously though... What an excellent find!! The things you need to do are minor given the good overall condition of that mosheeen. 2 hours ago, kpinnc said: Absolutely. They are easily removed. Just a bleeping heavy engine to set off the frame to get them. Yeah. There's balance gears. Yeah. That powerplant is some heavy. 125, 130 lbs or so. YYYEEESSS I'd remove them after seeing how my own were just recently. I'll be doing a "balance gears delete" on all mine as they're rebuilt in the coming months and years. I found it was fairly easy with the right tools to drive the gear pins right through the block then back in (to plug the hole)... Add some ground wires. Run down through the New to you list. I'll be lookin' forward to this !! 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,489 #13 Posted January 30, 2023 A Haiku Horse Newbie got one @ebinmaine caught slacking Oh the horror 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,502 #14 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Horse Newbie said: What does the K341S mean on the Kohler On Kohler K models the number represents cubic inches and cylinders. K341 = 34 C.I. one cylinder. Edited January 30, 2023 by Achto 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,259 #15 Posted January 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: Haiku Nice usage of the emoji on the last line there Jim. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,051 #16 Posted January 30, 2023 23 minutes ago, Achto said: On Kohler K models the number represents cubic inches and cylinders. K341 = 34 C.I. one cylinder. Does the “s” at the end mean anything ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,051 #17 Posted January 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said: Does the “s” at the end mean anything ? Nice find, guess you released all the magic smoke and need some wires. The "S" tells you your engine came with an electric starter. Click on this link and then on page 2 you will find your Spec. number. Follow that line across the page and it will show a code number for each group of parts and the ones that have your code number (in this case 2 for the crankshaft) will show that your engine left the factory with ballance gears. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,018 #18 Posted January 30, 2023 Yes you need to re-wire that tractor. Very few Big block Kohlers did not have balance gears. I have the very same garage stool with the same replacement casters because the originals kept falling off! 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blasterdad 2,689 #19 Posted January 30, 2023 What a beautul machine, NICE FIND !!! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAJoe 842 #20 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) I'm glad that I sent you the link for the FB Marketplace add yesterday morning. Now you have your C-160 and I have learned about the balance gears. I had not heard of these until I started following your thread. I guess I need to open my engine and have a look see. Edited January 30, 2023 by GAJoe 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike'sHorseBarn 2,984 #21 Posted January 30, 2023 I don't think you want that, you better sell it to me! Excellent looking tractor there! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,259 #22 Posted January 30, 2023 3 hours ago, GAJoe said: balance gears Folks here's a still picture I got from the video of My Local Paint Department while she was spraying the K341 for me. Excellent color contrast because she had just a dusting of white over the metal and red colors. I chose to lay the engine down and drive those pins right straight through to the interior of the block. The reason I chose to push them straight through instead of trying to remove or break the interior gear is that to me it seemed like it was just easier. If this engine was on a stand and empty and I was going to have it cleaned I probably would have threaded that section and put a couple of pipe plugs in there or maybe even just used freeze plugs and indented the outside of the block with a cold chisel. Kind of like you would do for a camshaft on the old Chevy small blocks. Likely that would hold just fine because those things had oil pressure to push against and these don't. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 11,896 #23 Posted January 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said: don't think you want that, you better sell it to me! NO! He needs to give it to me! He knows where I live and can even deliver it! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 11,896 #24 Posted January 30, 2023 4 hours ago, ebinmaine said: I chose to lay the engine down and drive those pins right straight through to the interior of the block. The reason I chose to push them straight through instead of trying to remove or break the interior gear is that to me it seemed like it was just easier. Just drive the top pin out. The lower pin's clip is easy to remove with snap ring pliers. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,259 #25 Posted January 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, kpinnc said: Just drive the top pin out. The lower pin's clip is easy to remove with snap ring pliers. Agreed. Now that I have the right snap ring pliers. The ones I had on hand the day I did that were fairly close to useless for those rugged rings that are inside that engine. That's why I drove them both right out. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
