Metal Blender 6 #1 Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) My Wheel Horse 312-H 1990 / Eaton 1100 runs fine in warm weather but its now 12°f and the lift is sluggish, Plus its making a rather noticeable noise at idle or moving? I'm thinking the oil is to thick for the filter when its extreme cold or am I overlooking something else ? Thanks for replying Edited January 12, 2023 by Metal Blender 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,324 #2 Posted January 12, 2023 Are you running 10 W 30? Any signs of water in the transmission oil? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,833 #3 Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) We were just engaged in this conversation by the brake lining guy ... see if I can find it. Found it ... read this Metal... We got kinda off on a tangent about fuel pumps but ... Edited January 12, 2023 by WHX?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Metal Blender 6 #4 Posted January 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, 953 nut said: Are you running 10 W 30? Any signs of water in the transmission oil? 10/40 The oil looks ok,what would water in it look like ?discolored 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,833 #5 Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, Metal Blender said: 10/40 The oil looks ok,what would water in it look like ?discolored Milkey or a whitish brown... you'll know it on the dip stick or when draining right off. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Metal Blender 6 #6 Posted January 12, 2023 33 minutes ago, 953 nut said: Are you running 10 W 30? Any signs of water in the transmission oil? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,833 #7 Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) That looks OK Metal... but... if you don't know when everything was changed last just drop the oil and filter and change it out. Run it for abit if you can to get the oil warm before dropping ...usually doesn't take long. NAPA 1410 on the filter. I use any quality Syn 10w-30. Reports are syn does better in cold ... I can neither confirm or deny that tho. Edited January 12, 2023 by WHX?? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Metal Blender 6 #8 Posted January 12, 2023 The oil is clean but its a little low 1/2 qt 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Metal Blender 6 #9 Posted January 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, WHX?? said: That looks OK Metal... but... if you don't know when everything was changed last just drop the oil and filter and change it out. Run it for abit if you can to get the oil warm before dropping ...usually doesn't take long. NAPA 1410 on the filter. I use any quality Syn 10w-30. Reports are syn does better in cold ... I can neither confirm or deny that tho. Ok thanks / NAPA 1410 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,833 #10 Posted January 12, 2023 Your welcome ... the oem filters are still around in plenty for the purists... 5990 right guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,230 #11 Posted January 12, 2023 Per Eaton, all 1100s should be warmed up for 10 minutes to prevent damage. Some must be warmed up before the lifts will work. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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rmaynard 15,516 #13 Posted January 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Ed Kennell said: Per Eaton, all 1100s should be warmed up for 10 minutes to prevent damage. Some must be warmed up before the lifts will work. Ed, at our age, can we afford to waste ten minutes? All kidding aside, I understand why Eaton states that. But in the real world we generally do what works for us. Since my hydro has close to 900 hours on it, (150 of which I put on), I can only attest to my own experience. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clueless 3,005 #14 Posted January 12, 2023 I can only speak for my shelf but I know the two times I've been outside in 12 degrees I was a bit sluggish. I didn't stay out long enough to warm up, if that's even possible, but that's probably why Eaton recommends a 10 minute warm up especially for a 30 year old tractor. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,230 #15 Posted January 12, 2023 54 minutes ago, rmaynard said: But in the real world we generally do what works for us Guilty as charged Bob. Of my four 1100s, the 312 is the only one I warm up and that's because the lift won't lift. The 417 and the 520s all start and go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,833 #16 Posted January 12, 2023 10 hours ago, clueless said: I can only speak for my shelf What yer shelf doesn't speak clueless? Mine does... say come get all these red parts off me I'm overloaded ... then tries to tell me about a guy called pullstart and overloading but I then turn a deaf ear like when the wife is talking... 10 hours ago, Ed Kennell said: Guilty as charged Bob... ... I should have her doing the hand shoveling while I warm them up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,230 #17 Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, WHX?? said: 10 hours ago, Ed Kennell said: ... I should have her doing the hand shoveling while I warm them up. We need pics of this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,637 #18 Posted January 13, 2023 @Ed Kennell how about this with an incandescent bulb? https://www.walmart.com/ip/Champion-Electronics-Clamp-Light-with-10-Aluminum-Reflector-Lightbulb-not-included/711001061 or a heat bulb on a timer ? standing vertically under the engine center tec a matic , rrame , is perfect engine heat , try the same thing under the trans , easy and worth a try . the cold weather is the issue , you know that . would set it up for rising heat to most area . just an idea , got silicone covered incandescent on line , regularly use them on my 3 , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
