pfrederi 17,739 #2 Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) Interesting...but sort of explains why when the gas drilling support companies buy new Tri axle water bottles they get automatics.... 43 years ago trying to teach a bunch of GIs (about 35% female) how to drive 5 speed 2-1/2 tons wonder that any of the clutches survived. one of my company clerks (female) almost put me through he windshield of the M-151. I should add the Army gave up... When the Deuces were overhauled and upgraded to M35A3 they got Automatics. 3/4 tons were replaced with commercial utility Dodges later GM's all autos.. Jeeps by Hummves also autos Edited January 11, 2023 by pfrederi 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,178 #3 Posted January 11, 2023 We used both arms back in the day. 5 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,562 #4 Posted January 11, 2023 And I thought the Millennial Theft Protection Device was adequate. Ain't nobody stealing @ebinmaine's truck... 6 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,739 #5 Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: We used both arms back in the day. Try that in a Deuce driving cross country and when the wheel kicks you might have a broken arm Edited January 11, 2023 by pfrederi 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,508 #6 Posted January 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: We used both arms back in the day. I've seen some that the owner/driver modified the sticks to be closer to each other so they shift while sliding the same hand from one knob to the other. That's slick. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc.gold 3,403 #7 Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Ed Kennell said: We used both arms back in the day. My first gravel truck 5 and 4 awesome transmission combo, backing up on a muddy site had plenty of speed to make it through the soft spots. My buddy had a Kenworth highway tractor with 5/4 air shift on the auxiliary.. One day Ernie a scrap yard owner asked me to drive a load into Calgary, the morning i was to leave the 80 year old owner climbed into the jump seat. The trip was uneventful just a normal road trip but on our return Ernie said, your the first to never miss a shift on the grades and never seen anyone shift without using the clutch. The other drivers who had missed a shift on grade usually had to come to a complete stop to find a gear. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,508 #8 Posted January 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, bc.gold said: My first gravel truck 5 and 4 awesome transmission combo, backing up on a muddy site had plenty of speed to make it through the soft spots. My buddy had a Kenworth highway tractor with 5/4 air shift on the auxiliary.. One day Ernie a scrap yard owner asked me to drive a load into Calgary, the morning i was to leave the 80 year old owner climbed into the jump seat. The trip was uneventful just a normal road trip but on our return Ernie said, your the first to never miss a shift on the grades and never seen anyone shift without using the clutch. The other drivers who had missed a shift on grade usually had to come to a complete stop to find a gear. People get freaked out by having too many speeds. Seen it quite a few times. Easy enough to find one. Some folks "get" machinery. Some don't. That's perfectly fine. There's things I shouldn't do either.... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,306 #9 Posted January 11, 2023 I think truckers have plenty to do keeping the cell phone jockeys at bay so the effort devoted to stirring in a gearbox might be an overload. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc.gold 3,403 #10 Posted January 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: People get freaked out by having too many speeds. Seen it quite a few times. Easy enough to find one. Some folks "get" machinery. Some don't. That's perfectly fine. There's things I shouldn't do either.... Keep your hands in your pockets with both feet planted firmly on the ground. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,508 #11 Posted January 11, 2023 1 minute ago, lynnmor said: I think truckers have plenty to do keeping the cell phone jockeys at bay so the effort devoted to stirring in a gearbox might be an overload. Nowadays there's more logic to that than you could know.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,323 #12 Posted January 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Some folks "get" machinery. Some don't. Yeah - like twacters..... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,232 #13 Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, bc.gold said: The other drivers who had missed a shift on grade usually had to come to a complete stop to find a gear. Took my driver’s test in our 3-on-the-tree truck. Tester complimented me on being smooth on the clutch and I replied “When your whole family is in the car ready to criticize any mistake, you get good or else..." Failed the first test for making a left turn from the right lane of one-way street. Duh. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,323 #14 Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) Back when I got my drivers license in the early 1970's, you could either do the Road Test on a car you brought or use one of the DMV supplied 1968 Chevy Biscaynes - 6 cylinder, 3 on the column. There were 2 Test sites - the DMV Inspector dediced which one. I took mt test at Neutaconnicut Hil in a then new Plymouth Sattelite from the Driving School - no problem. The other site was College Hill Downtown - still cobblestone at the time - narrow two lane hill, with a turn - I would be hard pressed to pass that test in the Biscayne today.... Edited January 12, 2023 by ri702bill 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,815 #15 Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) Grind em if ya got em ... I'll take a pound... Get on that rat... No smell no clutch burn... Spin them rubbers... Sry... flashback to HS days... Edited January 12, 2023 by WHX?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 7,005 #16 Posted January 12, 2023 Back when I was taking summer driver's ed class, one of the road drives was in a stick shift. That year, the stick shift car was a '72 Cutlass with a 350 and a 3 on the floor. Was really looking forward to that drive. Unfortunately, the car got broken before it my turn came up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 8,708 #17 Posted January 12, 2023 At 18 years of age I learned to drive a 5/4 speed, 20 gears but you didn’t really need all of them. I was a passenger in this truck since I was a little kid, so after watching my uncle and cousins shift it for many years I kinda knew what had to happen to make it go when my time came.It was a 1970 L8000 with a Cat (3408 I think) Ten wheel dump. Maybe only a few times did I use all the gears when loaded and pulling a Cat 941B track loader on a tilt-top trailer. I quickly learned to skip gears especially when empty because otherwise you’d go a hundred feet and shift five times! I remember that I couldn’t wait to see people I knew so I could wave to them! At 18 I really thought I was somebody driving that truck! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,508 #18 Posted January 12, 2023 7 hours ago, c-series don said: At 18 I really thought I was somebody driving that truck! At 52 I really think I'm somebody driving the bigger trucks at work !!! 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,178 #19 Posted January 12, 2023 At 13, I was jammin gears in these. Dad had three of them on the road that I shuttled to and from the Gulf station where I worked.. I changed oil and greased them every weekend. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 8,708 #20 Posted January 12, 2023 @Ed Kennell Hey Ed, this is parked outside the Keystone Truck and Tractor Museum in Colonial Heights, Virginia. It’s right off I-95, if you have not been I would encourage anyone to stop by and check it out. Be prepared to spend time there, this is no half hour stop. Perhaps this is why they have a fifties style diner inside! I have more pictures but they do not do this incredible place justice. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,306 #21 Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, c-series don said: @Ed Kennell Hey Ed, this is parked outside the Keystone Truck and Tractor Museum in Colonial Heights, Virginia. It’s right off I-95, if you have not been I would encourage anyone to stop by and check it out. Be prepared to spend time there, this is no half hour stop. Perhaps this is why they have a fifties style diner inside! I have more pictures but they do not do this incredible place justice. So Ed's dad was late on that delivery? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc.gold 3,403 #22 Posted January 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Ed Kennell said: At 13, I was jammin gears in these. Dad had three of them on the road that I shuttled to and from the Gulf station where I worked.. I changed oil and greased them every weekend. Do you recall which engine was in in the beast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,178 #23 Posted January 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, bc.gold said: Do you recall which engine was in in the beast Not really, of course they were inline sixes. I do remember Dad blew one of the sixes and we replaced it with a Buck V/8. He made one run with it and replaced it with a six. His comment...all he got done was shifting gears, and the noise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc.gold 3,403 #24 Posted January 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: Not really, of course they were inline sixes. I do remember Dad blew one of the sixes and we replaced it with a Buck V/8. He made one run with it and replaced it with a six. His comment...all he got done was shifting gears, and the noise. One scrap yard I worked at had a semi with a V12 GMC running on gasoline, very thirsty engine. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,508 #25 Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, bc.gold said: One scrap yard I worked at had a semi with a V12 GMC running on gasoline, very thirsty engine. Awesome engine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites