Docwheelhorse 2,665 #1 Posted January 7, 2023 Hello All, Happy New Year... not first WH with these and I don't understand what there purpose is. B100 Auto with steering stops that absolutely kill the turning radius... WHY.... Yep there coming off PRONTO Thanks Tony 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,657 #2 Posted January 7, 2023 We had one come through our stable that had that one ONE side only. I figured it was for a deck clearance issue..... ((??)) Never seen it on both sides though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,637 #3 Posted January 7, 2023 @Docwheelhorse in addition to the steering fix , that pto cone has the oil stain look , how about the rest of it ? that thing would look very water beading , even using waste oil for a rub down , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,158 #4 Posted January 7, 2023 You take those stops off and you just may wind the steering gear off of the fan gear. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,764 #5 Posted January 7, 2023 It could also make the steering such that the tractor could jack-knife if going full speed and topple it over. Most things are there for a reason, and it would be cheaper (for the factory) to not put them on. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docwheelhorse 2,665 #6 Posted January 7, 2023 2 hours ago, stevasaurus said: It could also make the steering such that the tractor could jack-knife if going full speed and topple it over. Most things are there for a reason, and it would be cheaper (for the factory) to not put them on. Ok... well of the several hundred WH units I've had this is MAYBE the third that has these. Although all the front axles are cast with the bump... if its there for a reason somebody needs to tell me for what. I don't think it's to prevent jack knifes of flipping. After all you can't jack knife something with 4 tires and a fixed frame Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,657 #7 Posted January 7, 2023 2 hours ago, squonk said: You take those stops off and you just may wind the steering gear off of the fan gear. 2 hours ago, stevasaurus said: It could also make the steering such that the tractor could jack-knife if going full speed and topple it over. Most things are there for a reason, and it would be cheaper (for the factory) to not put them on. I have 7, mid 70s C Series right now. All long frames. I've had a 74 B80 which was a mid length frame. That B may have been the one with the stopper.... I don't remember. Does the B100 have a mid length frame or is it a long frame? Would the length of frame be a consideration? Is the B restricted for some reason that a C isn't? Was there a mower deck on it? Very interesting..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,916 #8 Posted January 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Docwheelhorse said: After all you can't jack knife something with 4 tires and a fixed frame Possibly that the steering could push past 90 and prevent smooth return is what @stevasaurus meant? Not like a tractor trailer jackknifing. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Digger 66 3,485 #9 Posted January 7, 2023 Like stated above . The wheels will grind on the deck . 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,764 #10 Posted January 7, 2023 I know what a jack-knife is, didn't know how else to say it. Sorry I tried to help. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docwheelhorse 2,665 #11 Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, stevasaurus said: I know what a jack-knife is, didn't know how else to say it. Sorry I tried to help. Sorry... just looking for why? I don't really need to know... but it certainly is a curiosity. I guess maybe a 42" deck might end up with front wheels hitting if turned far enough as the frame is what? 1" shorter than a long frame? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,609 #12 Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, squonk said: You take those stops off and you just may wind the steering gear off of the fan gear. The fan gear will usually hit the frame on each side. Never seen a steering gear go past the end on the fan gear before this happens. Course I've been proven wrong before. Edited January 8, 2023 by Achto 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,237 #13 Posted January 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Achto said: Course I've been proven wrong before For me, LOTS of times! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,657 #14 Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Docwheelhorse said: the frame is what? 1" shorter than a long frame? The front of the frame at the portion forward of the foot step holding rod is shorter. Actual numbers I'm not sure of. Your guess seems about right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 8,724 #15 Posted January 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: The front of the frame at the portion forward of the foot step holding rod is shorter. Actual numbers I'm not sure of. Your guess seems about right. And this Eric I didn’t know! Thank you! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHGuy413 2,707 #16 Posted January 8, 2023 I’m going to have to look on Alex’s B-100 auto tomorrow. I don’t recall seeing them but I certainly didn’t look close. Only thing I can think of and it’s been stated above a few times is so the tires wouldn’t hit a deck. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,657 #17 Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, WHGuy413 said: look on Alex’s B-100 auto What year is that one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHGuy413 2,707 #18 Posted January 8, 2023 42 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: What year is that one? Not positive. Haven’t run the numbers on it yet. If it’s even got them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHGuy413 2,707 #19 Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) I looked while I was in the garage. @WheelHorse_Kid’s B-100 has no stops on it. My bronco 14 and Aiden’s 856 either. I swear I saw one with them around here somewhere. Guess I gotta venture out back at some point. Edited January 8, 2023 by WHGuy413 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHGuy413 2,707 #20 Posted January 8, 2023 20 hours ago, ebinmaine said: What year is that one? I just looked it up and learned something. It’s a 1975 and according to the serial number look up on here that was the only year they built a B-100 auto 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moe1965 741 #21 Posted January 11, 2023 My b100 has stops on both sides Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelhorse#1 1,669 #22 Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) My 74 B80 has them on both sides as well.I took them off ,bad idea as it caused clearance issues not to mention instability especially on hills.I don't know about other models though. Edited January 11, 2023 by Wheelhorse#1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
