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Hydro Transmissions and Cold Weather

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ebinmaine
8 minutes ago, rmaynard said:

I guess that I shouldn't compare the lift mechanism on a Wheel Horse to a JLG man lift. They will stay up and extended as long as you don't touch the controls.

It's possible they have a bleed down rate that's FAR more stringent than most hydraulic systems.  

 

It would make sense given that they move people as the predominant cargo.  

 

Every crane I've ever been around has at least one circuit that would leak down over enough time.  2 or 3 weeks mind you, but eventually.  

 

But the inspection criteria may be very different for a person lift.  

 

 

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pfrederi

Only have 1 Eaton 1100 Lift will not operate at first winter or summer.  Changed to Mobil 1 10w30 synthetic no improvement.  5 Sunstrands run on ATF all  pick up instantly and drive  winter or summer

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Ed Kennell
1 hour ago, pfrederi said:

  5 Sunstrands run on ATF all  pick up instantly and drive  winter or summer

I have only Eatons now, but some of my past Sunstrands were filled with 10w30 and they all lifted instantly.

I feel this slow cold lift is an Eaton quirk.    It is a mystery though,   why some are not slow.

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Ed Kennell
2 hours ago, rmaynard said:

a JLG man lift. They will stay up

I could be wrong, but I thought man lifts had a mechanical safety.    I was thinking scissor lifts, but bucket trucks would not have a safety.

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rjg854

Most man lifts are designed to lock in place if not running, or if something happens to the hydraulic system, so it won't drop the the person using the lift.

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Metal Blender

W H,Classic   1990/312-H/Eaton 1100/Virginia, low temp sluggish hydraulics,and noticeable constant noise from above the trans-axle .That could be the hydro unit starved of oil.The same transmission system acting differently in different models could be the answer.While the units are basically the same the oiling systems are different configurations of valves and hoses (lines). I was directed to start with an oil change and new filter as the tractor runs great in warm weather.These machines are well built and the 1100 is a nice system if we had been discussing a box store model it would most definitely be the unit getting replaced lol.I work mine like a horse too lol ,33 years and counting.The attachments are 312-H 1990/Eaton 1100Screenshot_20230111-205525.png.5d854ebf702d7f8e7b73a7c71a7ce126.png

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peter lena

@rmaynard  , been using  an  old style INCANDESCENT  ROUGH SERVICE BULB , in a 10 "  reflector  under my engines ,  just gives off enough heat , to warm the  engine ,  why not try that on a hydraulic  set up ?  got the bulbs on line , they are  silicone dipped , wal mart  has the clip on reflector  ,  to stand  up on or clip onto . have that on 3 engines , it works , pete

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peter lena

@rmaynard   https://www.lowes.com/pd/Utilitech-Incandescent-Clamped-Work-Light/5014077199?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-elc-_-bn   this the type of bulb reflector I use ,   would easily add some heat to a hydraulic  oil source , worth a try .  use the  repetition  of a problem  to make a cure for it , very scary to  many  , personally  love a track to a problem . warm oil , pete 

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