gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,046 #26 Posted December 27, 2022 My first choice is a carbon stick, battery cables and a booster battery. The stick gets red hot in a couple of seconds and the current flowing through the threads will often blow out any rust. Carbon sticks are available from welding supply companies for cutting metal with a stick welder. Every zinc-carbon flashlight cell also has one. Old time mechanics always had some in the tool box. Recycling is not new. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc–carbon_battery#:~:text=A zinc–carbon battery (or,the presence of an electrolyte. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,199 #27 Posted December 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, RED-Z06 said: have is a good helmet After you master that, then you can learn to use a periscope welding helmet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,327 #28 Posted December 27, 2022 45 minutes ago, RED-Z06 said: Most valuable thing to have is a good helmet though... Absolutely! Don't be like those maroons on the half hour automotive garage shows on TV - no helmet - "Oh, I'm just going to tack this support in place and finish weld it later".... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RED-Z06 2,221 #29 Posted December 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, ri702bill said: Absolutely! Don't be like those maroons on the half hour automotive garage shows on TV - no helmet - "Oh, I'm just going to tack this support in place and finish weld it later".... Yeah ive never done that...🫣 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrc 812 #30 Posted December 28, 2022 another vote for hand impact driver. with good, proper sized bits. works for me. good luck 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sailman 1,291 #31 Posted December 28, 2022 Don't mean to hijack the thread but I have a similar issue. Wanting to put a shroud back on the top of the 14 HP on my GT 14. Find out PO twisted the head off the bolt going into the head closest to the battery. Soaked with PB Blaster then Deep Creep. Used a small left hand drill and extractor. Couldn't get extractor to bite (have had limited success with them). Moved to the next size up and got a good solid bite with extractor. Kept working and working till....extractor snapped off! Gonna pull the head at a later date for cleaning and set it up on a jig to try again.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NA73 70 #32 Posted December 28, 2022 well, I'll add this to the mix. A small dewalt impact gun - 1/4" hex (DCF885B) and some hardened bits are fantastic on dealing with rusted screws. 90% of the time, the screws come out without a problem. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,558 #33 Posted December 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, NA73 said: well, I'll add this to the mix. A small dewalt impact gun - 1/4" hex (DCF885B) and some hardened bits are fantastic on dealing with rusted screws. 90% of the time, the screws come out without a problem. We use a different brand but absolutely agreed. Problem here is I'm "lucky' enough to be dealing with that other 10% of things. I'll try map gas. Then a good strong high quality string of expletives. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NA73 70 #34 Posted December 28, 2022 in case the impact driver fails, a set of good left-hand drill bits(M2 steel, iirc) handle the other 10%. rust is the strongest superglue I've ever found. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,558 #35 Posted December 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, NA73 said: rust is the strongest superglue I've ever found Be some handy if we could harness that ehh?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,558 #36 Posted December 30, 2022 Success!!! 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,233 #37 Posted December 30, 2022 My Dad wanted me to take one of these when he closed out his shop and I thought, “Humor him and take it, but you’ll never use it." Ha. Three or four times it has saved my bacon. BTW, it also works with setscrews, but not quite as well (easier to strip the socket). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John2189 454 #38 Posted December 30, 2022 I have tapped the head sideways a couple of times. That seems to break the rust and corrosion loose. Don’t over do it or you might damage the threads in the holes 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,558 #39 Posted December 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, John2189 said: I have tapped the head sideways a couple of times. That seems to break the rust and corrosion loose. Don’t over do it or you might damage the threads in the holes Absolutely agreed. Living in the Northern half of the country we have this thing called rust that we deal with on a constant basis. Some over 20 years ago a friend of mine who was an Automotive Tech shared what I thought was the best thing since sliced bread at the time. When it came to steel fasteners ... "You can almost never loosen one, but you can always tighten it." Didn't matter if you stretched the bolt a bit because you were going to replace it whether it was a torque to yield or not, because it was rusty. Tighten it just a hair. Loosen it the same. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Expanding your movements just a few degrees every time. That has saved my bacon more times than I can even begin to tell you at this point. Before I learned that I had broken a few and had to deal with that. I have no idea at all when was the last time I actually snapped off a bolt or screw. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,076 #40 Posted January 2, 2023 On 12/27/2022 at 8:14 PM, ebinmaine said: Then a good strong high quality string of expletives. Amazing how effective they can be! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites