Our beloved WIX filters

[Pullstart 62,890]

 

[ri702bill 8,323]

Sad when skimping on the almighty buck blinds the vision of those who once brought us this far down the good road with a quality product.

Seems to be "The Corporate Way"....

"Cost Reductions" - how I learned to despise those words. The biggest slap in the puss was during one of my annual performance reviews. We were ALL told we had to turn in hard saving cost reductions that equaled the cost of what Corporate kicked in for my Family healthcare cost ($30K) - to "justify" our presence as an employee..... took me quite a few minutes to gather the words to finish the conversation with my Boss.

Edited December 3, 2022 by ri702bill

[Horse Newbie 7,069]

When he showed where the older filter was made, did anyone notice it says Gastonia NC?… about 22 miles from Charlotte…

Edited December 3, 2022 by Horse Newbie

[ri702bill 8,323]

Everyone sing along...

 

Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone and another one gone
Another one bites the dust yeah
Hey I'm gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust

[Pullstart 62,890]

It’s funny how about everything in the new filter was better, except the part that mattered the most!

[Bill D 1,921]

Are there any made in USA filters to replace the 1410, 1762 and other filters commonly used on our tractors?

[rjg854 11,362]

Are the Napa filters also made in China, then?

[JoeM 7,874]

1 hour ago, Pullstart said:

It’s funny how about everything in the new filter was better, except the part that mattered the most!

Not really. I suspect that is a synthetic media in the newer filter. The early one is composite paper. Just because you can see light through it means not much. 

I posted that a couple weeks ago and that guy is misleading. 

To really see, it would have to run in the lab. 

I know there was less than a handful of filter media producers in the world. At least when I was involved with it there were less than 5.  Most filter manufacturers spec the element and buy in bulk.

One manufacture come to mind. The dreaded 4 letter word (around here) Fram. Fram sells a very high rated synthetic element filter. Where does it come from?

It is like everything else. For instance, more than 50% of the bearings are manufactured in China. The tolerances and quality are both spot on now. They have really come a long way in manufacturing. Major bearing manufacturers are have their stuff made there. 

Very little environmental and labor issues.

Not to mention the Chinese government strong arms manufactures to set up shop there, if they refuse, they will not be allowed to do business in China. Pretty big chip on the table. 

Like you said lots have bit the dust and more are coming. 

 

 

 

 

 

[SylvanLakeWH 25,562]

As Yoda would say: Decades in the making, this problem is... 

 

We do not learn as a Country. Now selling our land to the same country.

 

Perhaps we ought to concern ourselves with more important matters...

[Horse Newbie 7,069]

3 hours ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

Now selling our land to the same country.

Some day we may have an emperor instead of a president…

[ebinmaine 67,508]

15 hours ago, Bill D said:

Are there any made in USA filters to replace the 1410, 1762 and other filters commonly used on our tractors?

 

 

I won't use an "F" word fram on anything. Haven't for decades.  

 

Wix. Hastings. Baldwin. 

But I don't know where any are produced now.  

 

At $20+ for an overseas made  WIX 51410 I'm not likely to keep using them. That's a HUGE profit margin for someone other than me.    

[wh500special 2,184]

FWIW I just bought a six pack of Honda oil filters for my cars and outboard. Stamped “made in USA” on them.  This particular variation (“-A02”) is made by Honeywell and is apparently not as good as the prior version (“-A01”).  But if it’s good enough for OEM it’s good enough for me.  
 

My point is that there are still USA made filters, sometimes in unexpected places. 
 

As an aside that I think is kind of fun, Honda uses the same spin-on oil filter pretty much across their entire line: cars, vans, SUV’s, outboards, small engines that are big enough to take a filter, power sports, etc.  Convenient.   It’s kind of small, but apparently meets the need well enough that its replacement is generally recommended only every other oil

change…although who doesn’t also change the filter when already under there anyway?
 

Steve

Edited December 4, 2022 by wh500special

[lynnmor 7,306]

23 hours ago, JoeM said:

Not really. I suspect that is a synthetic media in the newer filter. The early one is composite paper. Just because you can see light through it means not much. 

 

I don't care what the filter media is made of, this junk has holes that you could drive a school bus thru.

[Lee1977 6,661]

Wix Filter was bought out by Weebly-( WebsiteBuilderInsider. Com )  That explanes it all they know nothing about filters just the bottom line.

 

Edited December 6, 2022 by Lee1977

[oliver2-44 9,755]

So the dissertation on oil and filters posted by Wild Bill a few weeks ago ranked Ford Motorcraft filter very highly. 

So is there a Motorcraft filter that would replace the Wix 51040? 

[ebinmaine 67,508]

4 minutes ago, oliver2-44 said:

dissertation on oil and filters posted by Wild Bill a few weeks ago 

Got a link? 

[oliver2-44 9,755]

I'll try to find it @ebinmaine

[8ntruck 7,004]

I wonder if there is there any test data available anywhere?  Old Wix vs new Wix?

[oliver2-44 9,755]

12 hours ago, 8ntruck said:

I wonder if there is there any test data available anywhere?  Old Wix vs new Wix?

Yes, search Wild Bills thread and open the oil bible there is a filter testing sectional “motor Oil Testing”. Sadly it confirms what the above video is saying. 

Edited December 6, 2022 by oliver2-44

[ebinmaine 67,508]

On 12/5/2022 at 9:23 PM, oliver2-44 said:

So is there a Motorcraft filter that would replace the Wix 51040?

I found a cross reference number but don't see specs. 

[rjg854 11,362]

On 12/3/2022 at 5:39 PM, rjg854 said:

Are the Napa filters also made in China, then?

Can any one answer this query?  @squonk?

[squonk 41,118]

8 hours ago, rjg854 said:

Can any one answer this query?  @squonk?

They are made by Wix so if Wix had it made in China then yes. I'd still buy it. We're not flying the Artemis rocket here! 

Edited December 8, 2022 by squonk

[Pullstart 62,890]

Not all production has moved evidently.

 

 

[SylvanLakeWH 25,562]

Curious, Is there a production date on that?

 

I had similar situation with Carlisle tires... some said USA some said china... USA ones were substantially bigger marked same size...

[Pullstart 62,890]

24 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

production date on that?

maybe, but it’s already under the truck and full of oil.