'58-9 Ride-Away Junior frame

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Ever seen one like this?

 

[The Freightliner Guy 1,327]

If that’s part of the steering setup than no.

But not sure if mines special but it doesn’t have that metal plate aimed down and on my shaft or whatever that part is called is taller if that helps any.

 

Kollin

Edited December 3, 2022 by The Freightliner Guy

[WHX?? 48,828]

Not me Madge... somebody added the zerk? Clean off that tag see what it says... looks interesting even with the Pullstart drill in the hand holes. 

Second look looks like ther is a seal on it??

Edited December 3, 2022 by WHX??

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RJ frame with the Suburban style steering setup...

complete with a fan gear.

 

[WHX?? 48,828]

Damit Madge you gonna make me out in the cold and see what mine looks like !?!?

[WHX?? 48,828]

OK now I see ... best I just come get it and settle the whole matter..

Seriously a late 50s or an a early 60s dealer fix? 

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Or, RJ in transition to Suburban tractor.

Frame appears factory, unmolested to my eye.

[Pullstart 62,905]

What did Cecil’s fix look like, when the fellas in Spain were breaking the front ends off in the fields?  Straight From the Horses’ Mouth mentioned that he retrofitted them to make them bigger, better, stronger.

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Humm...yeah forgot about that. Ty.

First I've seen, maybe could be one.

[squonk 41,137]

1 hour ago, Pullstart said:

What did Cecil’s fix look like, when the fellas in Spain were breaking the front ends off in the fields?  Straight From the Horses’ Mouth mentioned that he retrofitted them to make them bigger, better, stronger.

I think they went to the Suburban design

[Pullstart 62,905]

13 minutes ago, squonk said:

I think they went to the Suburban design

I do too, with the cast axle.  I’ve never seen the “conversion” though it was mentioned.

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Post them up...

who else has one?

[Pullstart 62,905]

All I got…

 

But the pictures don’t show justice to “the kit”.

[wallfish 17,010]

Very interesting find Craig. If it was re-worked there most likely should be signs of the old welds cut off and such. You have certainly seen enough of these tractors to know what is and what isn't so I trust what you say. 

Guessing a late 59 with the new 1960 steering setup. A true unicorn find but there will always be some speculation. The birth of the fan gear steering

I'd assume the axle conversion sent to Spain was just enough to convert the axle and probably didn't include anything for upgrading the steering but who knows.

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

4 hours ago, Pullstart said:

 

 

 

 Is that a WH book? If yes, do you know where I could maybe buy it?

[wallfish 17,010]

3 minutes ago, sjoemie himself said:

 

 Is that a WH book? If yes, do you know where I could maybe buy it?

It's called

Straight from the Horse's Mouth

Written by Michael Martino. He did extensive research and interviewed Cecil Pond for much of the information.

You can find them on Ebay.

[SylvanLakeWH 25,596]

Great book!

 

Comes with a dvd with some pretty cool pics etc. as well...

[The Freightliner Guy 1,327]

So I’ve been wondering for quite a bit is the reason for the suburbans axle design for More body roll or something or also structural? 
Kollin

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On 12/4/2022 at 4:37 PM, The Freightliner Guy said:

So I’ve been wondering for quite a bit is the reason for the suburban's axle design for More body roll or something or also structural? 
Kollin

Structural.   More weight carrying capacity than the rectangular tubing axle of the RJ.

[Sailman 1,291]

On 12/3/2022 at 5:46 PM, sjoemie himself said:

 

 Is that a WH book? If yes, do you know where I could maybe buy it?

Go to wheelhorsepartsandmore.com for $45 plus shipping! Good folks over there.

Amazon has them for ridiculous price, Ebay is $80.

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

Thanks for that! Found it on Amazon but clicked away reeeeaal quick when I saw the price