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79361 2 stage snowblower won't lift, need help

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All, I started a new thread on this as its different than the previous assembly questions. My blower is a 1995 model, s/n 5900151. I'm using the manual for the 44inch two stage 79361 for s/n 4900001 and up.  The later one in the manual section is for 6900001 and up.  I've hooked everything up to the point prior to installing the big front lift spring.  The rear of the blower is connected to the mid attach a matic.  The lift link is attached to the front attach a matic. The lift rod is attached at the rear to the hole in the rock shaft indicated for snowblower attachment (this is the hole closest to where the cross shat goes through the rockshaft). The other two holes are indicated for generator or tiller attachment.  The front of the lift rod is connected to the bottom of the curved arm of the lift link. The straight arm of the lift link is in the bottom rear hole of the adjustable link. The bottom of the adjustable linkis connected in it's long slot to the pin on the frame of the blower.  When I active the lift lever on the dash (electric lift) it moves to the end of its extension which just brings the adjustable lift link up to where it just begins to make contact on the frame pin of the blower in the slot of that link (its not a matter of insufficient force, it's at the end of its travel). It seems if there were lower holes in that adjustable link (which i could drill) and/or I used the lower generator or tiller holes of the rockshaft it would provide me with the necessary amount of movement to cause the blower to lift. I didn't want to go that route as I'm trying to follow the instructions as is. If anyone has experience with the installation of this blower help would be greatly appreciated. 

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lynnmor
1 hour ago, Panther416-8 said:

All, I started a new thread on this as its different than the previous assembly questions. My blower is a 1995 model, s/n 5900151. I'm using the manual for the 44inch two stage 79361 for s/n 4900001 and up.  The later one in the manual section is for 6900001 and up.  I've hooked everything up to the point prior to installing the big front lift spring.  The rear of the blower is connected to the mid attach a matic.  The lift link is attached to the front attach a matic. The lift rod is attached at the rear to the hole in the rock shaft indicated for snowblower attachment (this is the hole closest to where the cross shat goes through the rockshaft). The other two holes are indicated for generator or tiller attachment.  The front of the lift rod is connected to the bottom of the curved arm of the lift link. The straight arm of the lift link is in the bottom rear hole of the adjustable link. The bottom of the adjustable linkis connected in it's long slot to the pin on the frame of the blower.  When I active the lift lever on the dash (electric lift) it moves to the end of its extension which just brings the adjustable lift link up to where it just begins to make contact on the frame pin of the blower in the slot of that link (its not a matter of insufficient force, it's at the end of its travel). It seems if there were lower holes in that adjustable link (which i could drill) and/or I used the lower generator or tiller holes of the rockshaft it would provide me with the necessary amount of movement to cause the blower to lift. I didn't want to go that route as I'm trying to follow the instructions as is. If anyone has experience with the installation of this blower help would be greatly appreciated. 

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I believe that you are reading it wrong, use the hole that is next to the lift cable hole.  Follow the line from the word "generator" notice the word "or."

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20 minutes ago, lynnmor said:

 

I believe that you are reading it wrong, use the hole that is next to the lift cable hole.  Follow the line from the word "generator" notice the word "or."

Thanks lynnmor. I believe the way that reads is the uppermost hole is for the snowblower and the uppermost hole or the middle hole is to be used with the generator.  Additional searches on the forum reveal that to be the case and the force is more effectively transferred when the lift rod is in that hole. I think if there is nothing else I can find I will drill additional holes in that adjustable  link. I have another question though about the lift arm (#47 in attached drawing), should that piece have both arms in the same plane? In other words for the most part would it lay flat on a table? Attach is a pic looking down and you can see that the pin on the straight arm of the lift arm and the pin below on the blower frame are not in alignment.  This causes some binding on the adjustable link piece bit not so that it won't raise and lower like it should.

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lynnmor

Put the rod in the hole next to the one for the cable, stop overthinking this.  #47 appears to be bent, there should be no bend.

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Rod connected in the upper most hole on the rock shaft

Lower the lift mechanism/handle all the way down

Now mess with the adjustment lift holes at the blower on that plate with the slot

On level ground and the blower down with the lift all the way down, that pin in the slot should be about the middle of the slot hole. There should be room in the slot hole above and below the pin.

They don't lift very high to begin with. That slot is used so it floats up and down with the terrain as it's pushed.

I don't see a problem if you actually need to attach the lift rod to the second hole down on the rock shaft for more throw as long as your lift can actually lift it with it located there. By hand you would not be able to lift it with a handle if it's located there. 2 stages are heavy

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34 minutes ago, lynnmor said:

Put the rod in the hole next to the one for the cable, stop overthinking this.  #47 appears to be bent, there should be no bend.

Yep. Just watched a YT video of the install and that part had no bend in the straight section. I'll switch the hole on the rock shaft and pound that lift arm out flat and try again in the morning. 

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Note the bend in the straight arm portion of the lift arm. I will try to straighten this on the press.

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Attached is a YT installation video. If you slow it down you can clearly see around 32-40 seconds that the lift arm should be straight.

 

 

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lynnmor
19 minutes ago, Panther416-8 said:

Note the bend in the straight arm portion of the lift arm. I will try to straighten this on the press.imageproxy.php?img=&key=74de1d643bd8402f

 

 

Looks like the other arm is bent a little bit, you must have bought this from a real klutz.

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After straightening

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Panther416-8

And we have lift off! About 4.5 inches of lift. Thanks to all for the assistance.  One last problem (hopefully) to tackle but I'll start that under a new thread then its time for belt hook up.

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