“New” Orange Tractor

[Pullstart 62,831]

I bought this property about 5 years ago now, from my in laws.  Honestly, the time is running together and I am not 100% positive on that.  Might be working on 6!  This Allis Chalmers CA was given to my brother in law by a close family friend a long, long time ago.  I’ve ruled over it since moving here, yet it has just been a grapevine home.

 

I’ve had feelers out now for a while, maybe a year, looking for a machine to get a brush hog for, or pull a bigger plow, etc.  the WD45 is powerful, but has no traction.

 

Cleaning up the place a bit lately, I uncovered this from the vines once again and today just asked my BIL what he’s going to do with it.  Well, it’s mine now, so long as it stays in the family and I don’t sell it.  

 

It has the aftermarket 3 point system, which I may end up swapping onto the WD45 but first it’ll need a real good transmission soaking.  The shift rails are stuck to all forward gears, I can only access reverse.  The engine oil looks full and fresh at least!

My plan, once I get the pool and camper winterized and put away, is to get it INSIDE where it belongs, drain out whatever is inside the transmission, then get it soaking with any oil yep fluids I can find.  I have a couple pallets of used oil and I won’t even mind just filling it up to set for the winter.  I’ve filled engines to sit for a year and got them to break free, why not an old transmission to start?

 

 

 

[953 nut 55,161]

19 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

WD45 is powerful, but has no traction.

Looks like that CA has some good wheel weights.

[Pullstart 62,831]

Just now, 953 nut said:

Looks like that CA has some good wheel weights.

And good tires, what I can see! We have this same 3 bottom plow, it would be amazing to hear that old thing chuggin’ along turning dirt!

 

https://youtu.be/y1zZcWmAr64 

[Pullstart 62,831]

Well, I removed the plug and filled it to the brim with old oil, then started dripping oil into the shifter hole, in hopes to fill it up.  Then, I hear something pouring out the rear.  The “draft” mechanism is split (water damage) and is leaking back out.  Water was coming out before the oil.  Ugh.

 

I realize this will be a long term project, and there’s no need to rush it.

I did figure though, I can remove the side plate where it is written “CA” to access the shift rails.

 

Edited November 10, 2022 by Pullstart

[The Freightliner Guy 1,327]

This would make some great YouTube content. 

[ebinmaine 67,397]

5 hours ago, 953 nut said:

Looks like that CA has some good wheel weights.

Them're so big I'd venture to say the wheel weights have a tractor attached!

 

 

Glad to hear the vine catcher is yours now. 

It's in good hands.  

 

 

[Pullstart 62,831]

 

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

Your assessment on the condition of this machine is on point 

Do you by coincidence watch MCM? You reminded me of a clip of theirs 

[Pullstart 62,831]

1 minute ago, sjoemie himself said:

MCM

I’m not sure what that is, should I watch it?  

 

I managed to drag it a bit, rock it a bit, then break the rear tires loose.  The valve stems are frozen and I can’t get any air in them right now.  I’ll address that soon.

 

One thing’s for sure.  There’s enough moss on this to compete with @Achto’s Rat Fink Suburban for the greenest tractor on the forum!

[The Freightliner Guy 1,327]

Is it me or does that chalmers wheel base seem a bit long

[Pullstart 62,831]

36 minutes ago, The Freightliner Guy said:

Is it me or does that chalmers wheel base seem a bit long

that’ll help keep the nose planted when I’m plowing the garden…

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

2 hours ago, Pullstart said:

not sure what that is

Mighty Car Mods on YT. Great show, great guys.. if you're into 'Straya' and (mostly) japanese cars and all kinds of other shenannigans you'll like it.

[Achto 27,562]

9 hours ago, Pullstart said:

the WD45 is powerful, but has no traction.

 

Curious, a WD45 should weigh in at 4000lbs + or -. The CA should weigh around 2800lbs.

[Pullstart 62,831]

12 hours ago, Achto said:

 

Curious, a WD45 should weigh in at 4000lbs + or -. The CA should weigh around 2800lbs.

Tires….   You can see the WD45’s tires in the back of this picture…

[Pullstart 62,831]

 

[The Freightliner Guy 1,327]

That’s exactly what happened to my rj front tires 

Edited November 12, 2022 by The Freightliner Guy

[The Freightliner Guy 1,327]

Also got a name for it.

Allis maybe 🤔 

[Pullstart 62,831]

1 hour ago, The Freightliner Guy said:

Also got a name for it.

Allis maybe 🤔 

I was thinking Ivy…

[Pullstart 62,831]

On 11/10/2022 at 6:57 PM, sjoemie himself said:

Mighty Car Mods on YT. Great show, great guys.. if you're into 'Straya' and (mostly) japanese cars and all kinds of other shenannigans you'll like it.

I did used to watch them, but it seems they faded out of my suggestions.  Fun stuff they did!

[Pullstart 62,831]

I had a thought today.  Like a Wheel Horse transmission, this one got full of water enough to crack the “share” case.  It’s probably pretty bad.

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,397]

I'd have to agree that disassembly would be your best bet at this point.

I don't know much of anything about those transmissions. Just from a general mechanical standpoint if it's cracked that bad I don't think I would try to use it at all until I dove into it a little bit to double check what's going on in there.  

IIFF the case itself is not structural to the Tractor or holding the driveline together you could certainly JB Weld that to do nothing else but keep the fluid in place.

 

Welding of course would be an option.

 

Seems to me there are enough of those around that Parts availability should be pretty good anyway.

 

 

[Pullstart 62,831]

I remember going to this place a handful of years back for some cylinder head parts.  This fella told me he has some transmissions minus the hand clutch side and we could find a good one for $400.  That doesn’t sound terrible.  If all else fails, there is a wide front CA not too far away that runs good and has “new tires” for $1,000.  Obviously, I’d like to save what I have more than anything.
 

 

[Achto 27,562]

New rear tires could run you close to $800. At $1000 for the tractor, it sounds like buy new tires & get a running tractor for $200

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

Agreed on splitting it.. a cracked case is never good.. cracked anything for that matter.

 

 

 

 

Unless maybe when you're trying to fry an egg 

[ebinmaine 67,397]

I like eggs.