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Clutch Cam (?) on on 1888 312-8 Left End of Clutch Cross Shaft

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JP56

Has anyone ever had the roll-pin on the Cam (the Oblong Tab that the Return Spring Anchors to) on the end of the Clutch rod Assembly Shear Off on BOTH sides of the Shaft , allowing the clutch pedal to rotate all the way forward flat?

Not only did mine snap on both sides leaving a portion inside the hole in the shaft, but the hole where the return spring goes through it, is so worn that it will probably not be long before it where right thru & the spring will pop off that end!:angry-cussingwhite:

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daveoman1966

This is the 312-8 pedal schematic....  What part are you talkin' about??   

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JP56

Part # 18. No Longer available

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daveoman1966

The original  # 18 is OEM part # 4899 as shown in earlier 'Clutch Pivot Arm' shcematics...  I have one for $32...shipped. 

I am trying to verrify that the part# of your 312-8 (105896) is the same item.  665819889_4899004.JPG.4c390b5331864570d695da8c63e235ed.JPG

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daveoman1966

Here is a pic of the 312-8 Clutch Pivot Arm #105896.  It is the same as old part # 4899.  

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JP56

My IPL does show it as Clutch Pivot Arm #1 05896. I haven't found anyplace that doesn't say Discontinued or Unavailable, but have seen a few used on FleaBay. I will clean it up in the am & see what part # if any is stamped on it. I will also post a pic for opinions on how badly worn the spring hole is.

 

On a side note, I live in an area of 1 acre home sites. I have an acre but tonight I just notice for the first time in 32 years, that the neighbor two houses away from mine, who has only a bit less then 1/2 acre of useable yard on his 1 acre, has a 312-8 as well. I spoke to him & he told me he purchased it brand new & has never put a penny into it aside from gas and oil since he owned it. Mine is a 1988 with the M12 engine, & his is IDENTICAL to mine including the NON-working idiot lights on the center stack, but he insists that he got his in 1974, but I thought I saw someplace that 985 the first year for these 312-8's with the Magnum, M12?  Can anyone confirm?

 

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953 nut

1985 was the first year for the 312 series and 1987 was the year that the Magnum engines were used on them.

 

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JP56

Here is the tab or Clutch Arm after cleaning it up.

 

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The Freightliner Guy

Yeah that don’t look to good 

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JP56
22 hours ago, daveoman1966 said:

The original  # 18 is OEM part # 4899 as shown in earlier 'Clutch Pivot Arm' shcematics...  I have one for $32...shipped. 

I am trying to verrify that the part# of your 312-8 (105896) is the same item.  665819889_4899004.JPG.4c390b5331864570d695da8c63e235ed.JPG

741249008_4899001.JPG.3e39117d16792a177d5f269ec795bcef.JPG

.daveoman1966 please pm me when you get a chance, about this part.

 

 

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Snoopy11

@JP56... Give Lincoln at A-Z tractor a call... he can probably get you the part pretty cheap. :greetings-waveyellow:

 

5 hours ago, JP56 said:

Here is the tab or Clutch Arm after cleaning it up.

 

I have repaired parts such as that in the past. Many times the spring on mowing decks does that to the arms that they attach to. If you had a welder, you could fix it relatively easily... :handgestures-thumbsup:

 

Don

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Snoopy11

Another thing that comes to mind that I have done before...

 

Before you go spending your dinner money on a used part, consider JB welding the old hole closed, and drilling a new hole in the arm in a little different area... such as this:

 

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That is something that you can absolutely do rather than flushing 3 Hamiltons and 2 Washingtons... :violin:

 

Don

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The Freightliner Guy

Or you could weld the worn out hole and drill the same size hole again not sure how good it’d work but just a idea

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Snoopy11

Most people don't have welding machines... and they wouldn't know how to plug weld without burning a bigguh hole and ruining their piece. I could fix it with my welding machine... but I have the welding experience to back it up. Not sure that the OP does... :dunno:

 

Best Welding GIFs | Gfycat

 

Most people DO have drills though... :occasion-snowman:

 

I don't think that drilling a new hole is a big deal at all. Should last another 30+ years... :rolleyes:

 

Don

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peter lena

@Snoopy11  years ago , cut off and rethreaded my  clutch lever rod to this spot , and have been testing a heim joint for durability / failure ,  no issues , greased the spring pull point , zero wear . done that on a number of  issue areas , eliminate the sloppy play , make it solid / smooth , don't tell anybody  you experimented with this  chronic issue , go greasy , pete 

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peter lena

@Snoopy11    pto lever ,heim joint , same scenario  as that clutch rod ,bracket  original , sloppy  movement point . when ever I  am dealing with a movement  irregularity  point , in addition to detailing  in  function , lubrication , make a plan to correct  the problem . then road test for comparison  issues , is it better ?  worse ? more often than not , the problem just goes away , along with solid smooth / easy action ,  regularly did this , pete 

 

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