PULLING CAPACITY of 520h?

[Duramax7man7 506]

I have a 7x12 Cargo trailer I've been wanting to pull into the backyard on account of Dipstick city ordinances not allowing to be in the front of my property. Am trying to avoid using my diesel 2500 because of my Dipstick Neighbor claiming I'm trespassing by using 4-5 feet of their grass in between our houses to get a good angle going into the backyard. The Cargo trailer is tandem axle and weighs about 2200lbs with my Motocross bike and gear in it. I have a hitch bracket from Lowell (the Hitch Guy?) on the tractor now with a 6" drop hitch installed up-side-down. 

 

Anyone know the max towing capacity of the 520h? Obviously it's going to put stress on the transaxle the most, which is my primary source of concern. 
Andrew

[Snoopy11 5,717]

6 hours ago, Duramax7man7 (Mastiffman) said:

Anyone know the max towing capacity of the 520h?

Keep in mind... the Eaton 1100-032 transmission that your 520H is equipped with is considered a light duty hydro.

 

Longevity-wise.... I would not use that machine to pull heavy things. Just my

 

 

 

Don

[Pullstart 63,425]

It should move 2200 lbs on flat ground just fine.  As a property owner with a neighbor who prefers to use it as his own, I respect that you’re looking for a way to not need his yard to maneuver stuff into yours.  

[Pullstart 63,425]

Proof that it could handle the load just fine…

 

 

[Duramax7man7 506]

1 minute ago, Pullstart said:

It should move 2200 lbs on flat ground just fine.  As a property owner with a neighbor who prefers to use it as his own, I respect that you’re looking for a way to not need his yard to maneuver stuff into yours.  

Well the facts are that I actually cannot use my backyard (on my half acre lot) to store anything without going across 4-5ft of their law for 20 seconds. But the weight of the tractor would potentially avoid any ruts put into the lawn when soft. It honestly didn't do anything this spring when I moved them using my truck though. The Process only left a few 1/2-3/4", no destructive to grass, ruts in my yard. 

[Snoopy11 5,717]

1 hour ago, Pullstart said:

Proof that it could handle the load just fine

Betchya if you listen to the hydro though... it is growling like a demonic dwarf dog...

 

And if you read what Skipper says about it, " I feel the hydro is working harder. Much harder... This is surely on the high side of what it should handle long term."

 

Nobody questions "can" the hydro do the work... but the question that few are willing to answer is "should" the hydro do the work.

 

Don

Edited October 31, 2022 by Snoopy11

[Pullstart 63,425]

9 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

And if you read what Skipper says about it, " I feel the hydro is working harder. Much harder... This is surely on the high side of what it should handle long term."

true… but Skipper’s tires, fluid filled, over sized, loading the machine down, plus the fact that it’s way over powered by a big torque monster diesel, all tell me that pulling a 1 ton trailer around would be something I wouldn’t think twice about doing.  

[Snoopy11 5,717]

1 minute ago, Pullstart said:

pulling a 1 ton trailer around would be something I wouldn’t think twice about doing

Valid point. Maybe I err too much on the side of caution... I'm certainly not opposed to your line of thinking...

 

Don

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,722]

  I cleaned up all the useless drivel, let’s keep this on track guys.

  @Duramax7man7 (Mastiffman) you didn’t say if you were moving the trailer on level ground or not. I assume with 1/2 an acre you aren’t going far.. like 75’ or so? 
  I would think on level ground you would be fine. Full throttle and take it slow. I suspect the rear tires will spin on the grass before the transmission could be damaged. If the area you are moving the trailer on is sloped I would be more concerned with the ability to stop. 

[Handy Don 13,010]

59 minutes ago, Sparky said:

I suspect the rear tires will spin on the grass before the transmission could be damaged. If the area you are moving the trailer on is sloped I would be more concerned with the ability to stop. 

Slopes with big loads are very tricky. 

Even on level ground, leave the tongue jack down and very close to the ground so that if the trailer suddenly stops and the tractor rears up, the tractor won't go all the way over backward.

Edited November 1, 2022 by Handy Don

[Moonshine*Connoisseur 435]

Pulls my loaded 6x10 like a beast. I did have to install my snowblower for ballast in the front. Rear hitch from wheel horse parts and more. 

[RED-Z06 2,372]

520, 416, etc...your limiting factor will be traction, the Eaton is a tough customer, when i plow with my 416 im absolutely punishing it for hours, with loaded turf tires...my only issue is grip, itll sit there with a few hundred pounds on the trans just happily spinning the tires.

 

But most importantly...tongue weight and leverage.  You are limited to how much weight you can add on back before you cant steer, even with 50lbs up front i had steering troubles with my tiller on the back...its a couple hundred pounds 

[lynnmor 7,459]

I have used my 520H to pull a 6 x 12 utility trailer piled high with damp mulch, my guess is that the weight will be much more than you propose.  Using calculators on line, the weight might be 2 to 3 times your proposed use.  Be aware that you won't be pulling upgrade or stopping downhill without breaking traction.

 

Are you saying that it is impossible to make a path 8 feet wide?  Can you trim or remove trees to make room?  I have had neighbors that irritated me but I went with the attitude that this too will pass, those types seem to disappear after they foul their nest enough.

[Handy Don 13,010]

1 hour ago, lynnmor said:

I have had neighbors that irritated me but I went with the attitude that this too will pass,

I have had to consider how my actions were being perceived by the neighbor, as well, before a mutual understanding was reached.

[Duramax7man7 506]

16 hours ago, Sparky said:

  I cleaned up all the useless drivel, let’s keep this on track guys.

  @Duramax7man7 (Mastiffman) you didn’t say if you were moving the trailer on level ground or not. I assume with 1/2 an acre you aren’t going far.. like 75’ or so? 
  I would think on lever ground you would be fine. Full throttle and take it slow. I suspect the rear tires will spin on the grass before the transmission could be damaged. If the area you are moving the trailer on is sloped I would be more concerned with the ability to stop. 

NO worries. I kinna went off on a rant. LOL

Anyway, it's basically level ground with maybe 12" incline over the course of about 25-30 yards. And yes, not far. Maybe 100ft total and I do have Carlyle Tru-Power Agros on the rear, will have my 60" deck on and probably going to throw the front 100lbs hitch weight setup I have on it that attaches via a spare deck belt idler attachment. 

To protect the grass should I use some plywood or just roll over it. I think the only thing I'll have to worry about is angle of attack and the neighbor waking up and complaining about me rolling tires across 4ft of his grass. smh 

[Duramax7man7 506]

2 hours ago, lynnmor said:

I have used my 520H to pull a 6 x 12 utility trailer piled high with damp mulch, my guess is that the weight will be much more than you propose.  Using calculators on line, the weight might be 2 to 3 times your proposed use.  Be aware that you won't be pulling upgrade or stopping downhill without breaking traction.

 

Are you saying that it is impossible to make a path 8 feet wide?  Can you trim or remove trees to make room?  I have had neighbors that irritated me but I went with the attitude that this too will pass, those types seem to disappear after they foul their nest enough.

 So the fence in around 7ft wide on that side of the house from the house to property line, but the trailer is 8.5. So what I did before they moved in while my old neighbor was there, was remove the corner post, sunk a 4x4 PVC pipe 4ft into the ground and then plop the corner post in that. Then put the side privacy fence panel on hinges at the next post down the property line so that I can remove the center post and both front and side panels swing open like french doors but with the grade on their side of the fence, that only allows an extra 30-36" outside of the corner post to work with... So I have to have the perfect angle and pivot right at the center point of the axles on the trailer to guide it in. SO it probably takes a minute or two to get all of the way through the gate by myself. Getting on and off to verify clearance. 

I thought about making the next post down the property line removeable as well and making the currently hinged panel fully removeable and then the next panel down hinged. This would allow a less aggressive angle of attack to the backyard. But I'm sure they complain about that too. 

 It would be a miracle if they would just throw in the towel and take the next train out. But I'm not if they are "motivated" enough to do that. If you're pickin' up what I'm throwin' down.. 

[Lee1977 6,907]

My 5' x 10' weight around 1400 pounds and my lot isn't level. 

[Duramax7man7 506]

I'm sure it will be fine and I'm going to be recording everything in a few... I'll try and post it up to my youtube channel. 

Meanwhile... Feel free to poke around in it. Got quite a few playlists including repair and operation wheel horse videos and a bunch of Powersports, Sledding (Both Repairs and Restores &  Upnorth Trips) and Motocross riding from this season and last season. Yes including my wrecks. ha ha.
https://www.youtube.com/c/AndrewCrocker-Fixin2Ride/playlists

[wh500special 2,244]

The force to move a trailer on smooth, hard, flat ground really isn’t that high.  I’d guess in most instances it would be maybe 100 lbs or so.  Unless you ballast your tractor obscenely heavy, you’ll most likely lose traction well before you’d have to worry about breaking something.  Even long term. 
 

Your neighbor might be a genuine putz and perhaps he’s shown animosity before, but his yard is his property and if he doesn’t want you to set foot on it or roll over it - regardless of how gentle you’ll be - it’s only fair that you respect his request.

 

Most people are reasonable most of the time. It’s possible he’s been burned before by a neighbor who when given an inch instead took a mile. 
 

Good luck!

 

Steve

Edited November 2, 2022 by wh500special

[R Scheer 503]

The only thing I can add is to wait until you have a dry spell before pulling the trailer over the grass.  Soft soil really adds a lot of drag, you can hear the extra work the hydro has to do.  Going to Mobil 1 also seemed to help.  Here's my 312H, (same hydro as yours), pulling my brothers 19' outboard.  I'm guessing the boat weighs in about 3000 lbs.

 

 

[RED-Z06 2,372]

Was thinking last night about the biggest stuff ive moved with a mower.  Had a ball on a 1994 Craftsman lawn tractor, it was a hydro...very light duty mower.  Every mow i had to hook up to a 19ft crown line bow rider and pull it out to mow, single axle trailer it had a ton of tongue weight.  Then i had a car hauler i used to move around, 22ft dovetail..didnt want to pull a truck through the yard so i moved it with that mower.  It wasn't happy about it and the hydro did finally give up in 2002 at 800hrs..which was more than double expected life of the mower.

[Duramax7man7 506]

Not a long video but you can see the job done... 

 

[moe1965 750]

I hope you don't plow your neighbors drive in the winter for him.😆

[Duramax7man7 506]

yeah right. lol I have used my snow thrower to clear the street corner that people always seem to get stuck at if I don't. But it's been a couple of years since I've done that. We haven't really had enough snow to bring it out regularly. 

BUT, I thought I was clear because I asked my neighbor to guide me through. I figured he would have told me I was too close. I can't see around corners. 

Edited November 3, 2022 by Duramax7man7 (Mastiffman)

[WHGuy413 2,769]

Certainly looks like it handled it with no problems at all.