C145 11-14KE01 28688

[River Rat 1]

I need to replace the filter and Fluid on my C145 Automatic. What oil should I use.  Right now it is tan/brown.  I am using a Fram Ph16 as I was able to cross reference from the Wheel Horse number.  I may be mistaken but the E in the Model number may  stand for Eaton.

The tractor does not move very fast in forward and very slow in reverse.  Any suggestions about this.

[daveoman1966 3,758]

IMHO... Fram filters are the cheapest on the market...and that's all they're good for.  Just because they fit the threads, they're still junk.  Get the OEM filter for less than $20 bux.  Part number 79-5270...here: https://www.rcpw.com/parts-lookup?arisku=108335&arireturnurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rcpw.com%2Flookup%2F%23%2FToro_Consumer%2F01-14KE03%252c_C-145_Automatic_Tractor%252c_1982%2FAutomatic_Transmission%2F3b2c3fe7-acaf-4d30-9224-7ef3333aa6ff%2F182ee7d2-c356-4700-b17b-7e16009583c1&aridescription=See+Supercession%3A+79-5270&aribrandcode=TO

 

[Jeff-C175 7,203]

1 hour ago, River Rat said:

Fram

 

Ugh... the opinion of many is that Fram is junk.

 

WIX 51410 or NAPA 1410 is what you want.

 

Yes, the E is for Eaton.  If it was an S you would have a Sundstrand.

 

 

[WHX?? 49,139]

First off ditch the orange death in favor of a NAPA 1410 or 5990?? oem. Brown fluid use 10w-30 oil.

Sounds like you may have other hydro problems tho.

 

[953 nut 55,739]

This Eaton 11100 Service Manual should help you to determine the problem with slow speed. Remove the cover down between your legs where the motion controller lives, I had one that was full of walnut shells, mouse/chipmunk bedding etc. when I got it. Removed all that and it went a lot better.  I agree, ditch the Fram and use 10 W 30.

 

[oldlineman 1,482]

Yes agree on the Fram filters, was a time when I used them, that time has long past, just plain junk now IMO! Bob

[jah_trains@yahoo.com 1]

On 10/9/2022 at 11:21 PM, Jeff-C175 said:

 

Ugh... the opinion of many is that Fram is junk.

 

WIX 51410 or NAPA 1410 is what you want.

 

Yes, the E is for Eaton.  If it was an S you would have a Sundstrand.

 

 

Yes I realize the fram filters are no longer the Fram of Yesterday. The Ph16 I reference  has bee on the tractor for at least 10 years. I will be using a Wix or Napa filter to replace. The use of 10w30 oil was what I needed to know. The closet Toro/Wheelhorse Dealer would want to sell me their oil and filter. Toro/Wheelhorse does not Make the filter nor do they process the oil.  That's all subcontracted.  thanks for the comments

[jah_trains@yahoo.com 1]

Can 10W30 synthetic blend oil be used in my c145 hydro transmission? Just getting around to changing the filter and oil.

 

[oliver2-44 9,848]

Yes I use synthetic in the hydro and I believe I’ve read several others do as well. 

[jah_trains@yahoo.com 1]

Thanks for the info

[Lagersolut 669]

On 10/9/2022 at 11:21 PM, daveoman1966 said:

IMHO... Fram filters are the cheapest on the market...and that's all they're good for.  Just because they fit the threads, they're still junk.  Get the OEM filter for less than $20 bux.  Part number 79-5270...here: https://www.rcpw.com/parts-lookup?arisku=108335&arireturnurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rcpw.com%2Flookup%2F%23%2FToro_Consumer%2F01-14KE03%252c_C-145_Automatic_Tractor%252c_1982%2FAutomatic_Transmission%2F3b2c3fe7-acaf-4d30-9224-7ef3333aa6ff%2F182ee7d2-c356-4700-b17b-7e16009583c1&aridescription=See+Supercession%3A+79-5270&aribrandcode=TO

 

 

On 10/10/2022 at 7:42 AM, oldlineman said:

Yes agree on the Fram filters, was a time when I used them, that time has long past, just plain junk now IMO! Bob

 

 

I'm going to pile on this - years ago I had a car using Fram oil filters - long story short they caused an oil pressure problem because they're junk and not manufactured to specs - better more expensive filters are cheaper than engines or transmissions - same philosophy with oil and changes . 

[jah_trains@yahoo.com 1]

How hard is it to overhaul an Eaton Transmission on my C145?