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1982 WH Dump Utility Cart 10 Needs Axle Info

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ken@100hillrock.com

I am the original owner of a 1982 Wheel Horse Dump Utility Cart 10.  After 40 years the cart needs new tires and rims.  I ordered the standard 15X6X6 wheels and rims with 3/4" axle.  Did not fit.  Measured my axle and its a full 1" thick.  I cant find any stock rims that fit a 1" axle.  Where can I look please?

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WHX??

:WRS: Ken

A pic or 2 would help up understand what you are dealing with. If the tub is what I think you have should have had 8 inch rims with a 3/4 axle. 

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Handy Don

:text-yeahthat:

A good shot of the axle measurement and one of the hub/bushing/bearing at the center of the wheel will help a lot. 

Meantime, give a check to be sure there isn't a ¾ ID to 1" OD bushing on a ¾" axle that has "rust welded" to the axle.

 

And apologies for forgetting my manners....Welcome to the Forum!

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SylvanLakeWH

:text-welcomeconfetti:

 

I got 1” from Tractor Supply… 

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953 nut

:WRS:

Your axle is bolted to a crossmember on the underside of the cart.    :confusion-shrug:    You could pick up a piece of 3/4" round stock long for an axle, drill holes for the cotter keys and bolt it in place of the 1".

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ken@100hillrock.com

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SylvanLakeWH

Looks like 3/4” axle to me. :confusion-confused:

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953 nut

If the new 3/4" rims won't go onto the axle you may need to file off any rust or bent over metal.

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ken@100hillrock.com

there is no bushing collar on the shaft.  Its "way" past the OD for a 3/4 inch shaft.  Its just under 1" OD for a 1" OD bearing or bushing.  Thanks for the ideas.  I may need to get my micrometer out to display the settings but it showed 1" OD.

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Handy Don

Thanks for the images. I'm skeptical of anything larger than ¾" on that shaft. The end looks like it's deformed to me.

The caliper on the the shaft away from the end under a bushing/bearing will tell the story.

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Jeff-C175

Clearly not 1", but more than 3/4", possibly 7/8" ?

 

When measuring stuff like that, I don't use the hook on the end of the tape since they tend to wear.  I line up the 1" mark at the start, and subtract 1 from the result.  But a micrometer is best for that.

 

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ken@100hillrock.com

More pictures.  So its not bearing based but bushings.  The bushings form a collar over the 1" axle inside the tire sleeve - so the rim OD is BIGGER than 1".  See pics provided here.  On my manual micrometer, the axle with NO RUST measures 1" OD.  It ran great for 40+ years...never greased...just ran.  TIres dry rotted and cracked.  I'm about to just get tubes ...but the tires are in such poor shape.  Thoughts on the axle and what I could put on it?

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Handy Don

Well my skepticism was misplaced. Apologies! 

Those axles are the same diameter as the rear drive axles on many WH tractors. Any info on the rated capacity of that wagon? My cart has ¾" axles and is rated to 650--your might be 1,000.

 

I see that your wheels are rust coated, but are they rotted or bent or other wise damaged? If not, I'm wondering if new tires alone would work (assuming you're ok with the rims as-is or were up for de-rusting and painting).

 

Found these:

https://www.amazon.com/Lapp-Wheels-Pneumatic-Wheelbarrow-Replacement/dp/B07S4F29HP/ref=sr_1_2

I think this item might be the same as the one below

 

https://lappwagons.com/product/16-pneumatic-wheel/ (1" axle bearing is an option)

 

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ken@100hillrock.com

The axle is not bend, rusted or damaged in any way.  My friend has a 25 HP Kubota front end loader tractor and my dump trailer will take more dirt than his full scoop bucket.  Its sooo rugged, I dont want to loose it or its current capacity for carrying "fun stuff" like dirt.  The rims do have some surface rust on the collars of the rims.  I'm thinking some  JB Weld and fiberglass mesh inside and outside would work to seal the rims.  Otherwise, i will just inner tube the girl and be done.  Thanks on the link for Amazon and the 1" rims.  I'm still looking at those.  $100 and done - pretty much what i was looking at for good tires ($59 + inner tubes $21) with load rating of 640 4 ply tires.

 

Appreciate yalls help.  I need to go remeasure the inner shaft... i think its 4" versus 3"... which would make sense.  This beast is much more rugged than my JD 10.  But parts are harder to get.

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