Wheel horse tractor tires

[Kimm 1]

I have a flat on my tractor. It will hold air for a few days and then be gone. I was wondering if any one knew if this tire has an inner tube or do I have to find a new tire? I read that this size is not made any more. It is 22 X 7.5

Thanks Kimm

[Pullstart 62,905]

Hey Kimm, you can tube it if it doesn’t have one.  Just pop a bead, pull the valve stem out, and stuff a tube into the tire and pull the valve stem through the rim hole… then air it back up.  

 

Sounds easy at least!

[ri702bill 8,327]

The tube you need may not be the one listed to be a direct fit for your tire size - generally, if you use a 22 inch tube, you can go a bit oversize, like 8 or 8.5 inches, or a bit undersized, like a 6.5 or 7 inch wide.. The tube will fil the tire area.

If it has a tube already, you should be able to wiggle the valve stem freely when it is deflated - a tubeless valve stem would not move at all. If tubeless, you MAY consider using a product like Slime - has worked well for me...

You need to remove what ever punctured the tire and clean the inside if you are going to add a tube - best case is to dismount the tire completely and add a patch on the inside to keep small pebbles and the like from working their way up the hole, into the tire and ruining the tube...

Edited September 25, 2022 by ri702bill

[pacer 3,173]

I have to disagree with going to an oversize tube ---- and I have a LOT of experience here. I worked for Delta Air as ground equip mech and the baggage carts had 5.70x8 tires and I had to fix LOTS of flats (you wouldnt think so riding around on an airport ramp) For about the first year I was there I was getting a lot of flats and finding that the 5.70 tube was getting a fold in them which would soon crack and leak. So, I could get the smaller 400x8 tubes and thought that that would stop the folding - a tube will expand a lot  (think of the innertubes we used to swim with) - and viola, my flats dropped dramatically.

 

So, yes @Kimm a tube is a very practical solution for these old tires on our horses, just make it 1 or 2 sizes smaller than the tire - Shortly after I buy another horse I pretty quickly add tubes - Heh! usually gotta buy new tires anyway

[Pullstart 62,905]

@ri702bill there it is!  @pacer Bill and I were having a private discussion.  I knew someone here had experience with undersized tubes!

 

We agreed that though I’ll choose to undersize my tubes from now on based on your experiences, a couple hundred pounds on each tire is not exactly the same as a 747 landing 

[Pullstart 62,905]

And re-reading the story, I see that this had to do with ground equipment, not airplanes landing.  Well… that telephone game strikes again.  

[Handy Don 12,233]

I always thought that modern aircraft tires were tubeless but this thread got me googling. My impressions were wrong. Many, if not most, do use tubes, even on the big planes like the A330.

[Heatingman 971]

Messing with tire beads is not an easy task, and generally requires either a special tool, or large pry-bars and generally both require a fair bit of effort, and will certainly require the removal of the entire wheel from the machine.

 

You absolutely can do it yourself, however if this is not work you plan to do on the regular, then removing the wheel and having a tube installed, or tire repaired at tire shop may be most cost effective.

 

Really depends on your situation, access to tools, and desire to do the work.

 

Watch some videos online about manual tire removal and see if your up to the operation.

 

Alternatively you may be able to find a replacement tire already mounted on a rim somewhere like Marketplace for pretty cheap.

 

I recently bought 2 practically new AG tires on rims for 100 bucks for the set.

[Pullstart 62,905]

21 minutes ago, Heatingman said:

Alternatively you may be able to find a replacement tire already mounted on a rim somewhere like Marketplace for pretty cheap.

 @Andy N. @stevasaurus Maybe someone locally might have a pair of 23x8.50’s mounted?

[Andy N. 2,154]

3 hours ago, Pullstart said:

 @Andy N. @stevasaurus Maybe someone locally might have a pair of 23x8.50’s mounted?

 

Unfortunately, the set that I have are spoken for on another project that I have going. I do have used tires that held air before I upgraded them. Mostly 23x9.50 that I'll give to anyone who wants to come pick them up.

 

 

7 hours ago, Handy Don said:

I always thought that modern aircraft tires were tubeless but this thread got me googling. My impressions were wrong. Many, if not most, do use tubes, even on the big planes like the A330.

 

Most smaller piston powered general aviation aircraft do have tubed tires, but I don't know of any business or commercial jets with tubed tires. That would be news to me. 

 

 

8 hours ago, pacer said:

 For about the first year I was there I was getting a lot of flats and finding that the 5.70 tube was getting a fold in them which would soon crack and leak.

 

Did you coat the inside of the tire with talcum powder or baby powder prior to installing the tube. I was taught to always use powder when installing a tube in a tire to cut down on folding and friction while assembling and airing up. And I still do that even on tractor tires.

[CCW 1,295]

When I had problems with the old front tires that would not seal, I took them to a local branch of a national tire company.  They put new tires on for $20 each.  All I needed to do was pull them off the tractor and put them back on.  Easy as pie.

 

[stevasaurus 22,763]

Sorry, I do not have any spare tires or tires on rims.  

   Small rims can be very hard to get the tire off on one side.   Also, not a lot of tire dealers will do tires and small rims.  I found my local Miller Tire dealer had the right equipment, tires, tubes and desire to tackle the job.  Price was right also.  Like @CCW said...take the rims off the horse and put them back on.  

[SylvanLakeWH 25,596]

Around me, discount tire does them… I’ve done 12 now with no issues…